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Subject: Re: Has anybody tested Fritz 8.008 vs Shredder 7.04 using Shredder.ctg ?

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 22:59:58 04/18/03

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On April 18, 2003 at 12:25:46, Harald Faber wrote:

>On April 18, 2003 at 05:54:30, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On April 18, 2003 at 04:46:03, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>Has anybody tested Fritz 8.008 vs Shredder 7.04 using Shredder.ctg? I know that
>>>several people have done different matches between Fritz 8.008 vs Shredder 7.04
>>>both programs using their own books, but I believe that the Shredder.ctg book is
>>>much stronger than Fritz8.ctg which is responsible for most of Shredder 7 or
>>>7.04 wins against Fritz 8.008.
>>>
>>>Pichard
>>
>>I do not believe in this theory.
>
>
>This should be nor issue of belief. ;-)
>
>
>>Many people however argue that the
>>Shredder7.bkt under Shredder-Classic-GUI would be better than the
>>Shredder7.ctg.
>
>
>Sandro once stated that he developped the book for Shredder classic and somehow
>this has been imported into ctg. Due to the fact that ctg does not provide the
>same move preferences as the bkt does, there MUST be differences in the ctg so
>that it is clear that the differences let Shredder suffer in CB-GUI.
>On the other hand the book learning in CB-GUI - excellent implementation as
>Christophe Theron already found out - might be superior to the book learning in
>Shredder classic.
>So absurd it sounds, it is very likely that Shredder CB with worse book lines
>performs better in SSDF than Shredder classic with good book lines, only due to
>superior learning.

Hi,

I do not think so.

Classic book (tournament) is definetively better than CB.

It is not clear if CB learning is better than Classic.

C. Theron was comparing Chess Tiger interface with CB.

I think Shredder 7.04 under Classic interface will clearly be no. 1 in SSDF
list, and probably under CB interface too if 7.04 classic will not be tested.

Sandro


>That is why I dislike long match series, the learning influence can falsify the
>result a lot!
>
>
>>And what about testing yourself in order to get an answer?
>>Kurt
>
>
>Kurt, this is a consumer's society, noone really wants to do anything himself.
>;-)



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