Author: Uri Blass
Date: 02:02:27 04/19/03
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On April 18, 2003 at 10:03:14, Torstein Hall wrote: >On April 17, 2003 at 20:13:40, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 17, 2003 at 18:24:30, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>On April 17, 2003 at 02:55:43, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On April 17, 2003 at 00:26:47, andrew tanner wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 16, 2003 at 21:52:31, Midchael Ritter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I'm getting back into playing chess after 20 years. I had a Fidelity Sensory 12 >>>>>>machine that worked fine. When I unpacked it it did not work. >>>>>>Can anyone tell me which game to buy in the 100 to 200 dollar range. What about >>>>>>the Grand Master 747k? Help in aiding me to purchase the right one the first >>>>>>time would be very helpfull. >>>>>> >>>>>>Thank's >>>>>>Mike >>>>> Go to toysrus.com which takes you to amazon.com and do a search for chess. You >>>>>will see the kasparov computer chessboard by saitek? for an amazingly low price >>>>>of $20.0 I think it has a rating of around 2400..not bad for the price.. If you >>>>>look anywhere else for this very same unit it costs upwards of $55.0 US >>>> >>>> >>>>I have one of those Kasparov GK-2000 made by Saitek and it is NOT even close to >>>>1900 Elo in Strength. You can also see how the SSDF rated itas 1896. >>>> >>>> 135 Kasparov GK-2000 H8 10 MHz 1896 29 -29 593 42% 1952 >>>> 136 Psion Atari 68000 8 MHz 1882 18 -18 1487 44% 1928 >>>> 137 CXG Sphinx Galaxy 6502 4 MHz 1880 17 -17 1710 37% 1974 >>>> 138 Novag Ruby H8 10 MHz 1879 30 -30 545 42% 1934 >>>> 139 Fidelity Excel Mach IIa 68000 12 MHz 1878 46 -47 226 47% 1898 >>>> 140 Saitek Turboking II 6502 5 MHz 1868 23 -23 963 37% 1964 >>> >>>I always thought GK 2000 was rated near 1900 ,,as it is by SSDF -- 1896 is near >>>1900 right? or are you saying SSDF 1896 is not near 1900 ? I think it is near >>>1900 USCF -- but that may be near 1800 FIDE -- not really sure -- my take was >>>that USCF was near 100 points higher than FIDE, but I haven't looked in a while. >> >>1900 ssdf is supposed to be equivalent to 2000 fide. >> >>in the beginning the ssdf was supposed to be equivalent to Fide for the weak >>programs but the ssdf reduced the rating of all the program by 100 elo. >> >>Uri > >I think they did just that so their numbers should be more in line with Fide >Elo. > >Torstein No They did it so their high number will be more in line with Fide elo. They did not care about the small numbers. 1900 ssdf is a small number so it should be equivalent to 2000 fide as a first guess. It is possible that a program is relatively better against humans or the opposite but 2000 is the best estimate based on the information that was posted. Uri
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