Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:11:43 04/19/03
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On April 19, 2003 at 07:57:46, enrico carrisco wrote: >On April 19, 2003 at 07:27:06, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On April 19, 2003 at 04:58:33, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On April 19, 2003 at 04:16:36, Eran wrote: >>> >>>>Apparently Shredder 7.04 plays stronger than Fritz 8008 does. So I wonder >>>>whether there will be next match of 6 or 8 games Shredder 7.04 vs Kramnik or >>>>Kasparov. I hope to pass my word to any group who may sponsor it. >>>> >>>>Eran >>> >>>I hope not to see a match against these guys. >>> >>>They had an opportunities to win against Fritz and Junior and failed. >>>They do not deserve a prize for failing to winning Junior or Fritz. >>> >>>If humans who fail to win will be replaced then there is a bigger chance that we >>>are not going to see humans lose on purpose. >>> >>>There are people who claim that average GM's can get draw against computers if >>>they want to do it. >>>Both Kramnik and Kasparov failed to do it inspite of the fact that they were >>>leading the match but people claims that these were show events and they did not >>>take the games seriously. >>> >>>I think that one of the conditions for the match should be that the humans who >>>play against programs will not be allowed to play for money against computers >>>in the next 3 years if they do not win the match. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>My suggestion is that the sponsor should not give any appearance fee and should >>only pay 33% of the prize if the human fail to win the match and only 50% of the >>prize if the human draw the match. >> >>Jorge > >You wouldn't have to worry about Kasparov and Kramnik accepting with match >guidelines such as these. Look in the triple digits of the FIDE rankings for >GMs that would participate with such a venue. > >-elc. We do not need kasparov and kramnik to participate. They failed to win so it is time for new players. sponsors should simply say them no. Jorge Pichard also did not susggest how much money to give the humans and only suggested giving them 1/3 for losing 1/2 for drawing He did not say 1/3 and 1/2 of what and he only criticized the ratio between the money for participating and the money for winning because you can see money for losing also as money for participating. The situation with kasparov was that he got 750,000$ for drawing and could get 700,000$ for losing or 800,000 for winning. In other words you can see it as 700,000$ for losing 750,000$ for drawing and 800,000$ for winning. Jorge suggest something like 333,333$ for losing,500,000$ for drawing and 1,000,000$ for winning. Uri
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