Author: Vincent Lejeune
Date: 07:30:08 04/19/03
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On April 19, 2003 at 10:11:43, Uri Blass wrote: >On April 19, 2003 at 07:57:46, enrico carrisco wrote: > >>On April 19, 2003 at 07:27:06, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On April 19, 2003 at 04:58:33, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On April 19, 2003 at 04:16:36, Eran wrote: >>>> >>>>>Apparently Shredder 7.04 plays stronger than Fritz 8008 does. So I wonder >>>>>whether there will be next match of 6 or 8 games Shredder 7.04 vs Kramnik or >>>>>Kasparov. I hope to pass my word to any group who may sponsor it. >>>>> >>>>>Eran >>>> >>>>I hope not to see a match against these guys. >>>> >>>>They had an opportunities to win against Fritz and Junior and failed. >>>>They do not deserve a prize for failing to winning Junior or Fritz. >>>> >>>>If humans who fail to win will be replaced then there is a bigger chance that we >>>>are not going to see humans lose on purpose. >>>> >>>>There are people who claim that average GM's can get draw against computers if >>>>they want to do it. >>>>Both Kramnik and Kasparov failed to do it inspite of the fact that they were >>>>leading the match but people claims that these were show events and they did not >>>>take the games seriously. >>>> >>>>I think that one of the conditions for the match should be that the humans who >>>>play against programs will not be allowed to play for money against computers >>>>in the next 3 years if they do not win the match. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>>My suggestion is that the sponsor should not give any appearance fee and should >>>only pay 33% of the prize if the human fail to win the match and only 50% of the >>>prize if the human draw the match. >>> >>>Jorge >> >>You wouldn't have to worry about Kasparov and Kramnik accepting with match >>guidelines such as these. Look in the triple digits of the FIDE rankings for >>GMs that would participate with such a venue. >> >>-elc. > >We do not need kasparov and kramnik to participate. >They failed to win so it is time for new players. > >sponsors should simply say them no. > >Jorge Pichard also did not susggest how much money to give the humans and only >suggested giving them 1/3 for losing 1/2 for drawing > >He did not say 1/3 and 1/2 of what and he only criticized the ratio between >the money for participating and the money for winning because you can see money >for losing also as money for participating. > >The situation with kasparov was that he got 750,000$ for drawing and could get >700,000$ for losing or 800,000 for winning. > >In other words you can see it as 700,000$ for losing 750,000$ for drawing and >800,000$ for winning. > >Jorge suggest something like >333,333$ for losing,500,000$ for drawing and 1,000,000$ for winning. > >Uri what i tink even more interresting is a match with 4 very strong humans and 4 strong comps, where humans play only comps as in the old aegon tournament, the humans will get 400,000$ for the 1st, 300,000$, 200,000$ and 100,000$ for the next seats. let's say Kasparov, Kramnik, Leko and Anand againt Shredder, Chesstiger, Fritz and Junior :)
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