Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:44:23 04/19/03
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On April 19, 2003 at 10:30:08, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >On April 19, 2003 at 10:11:43, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 19, 2003 at 07:57:46, enrico carrisco wrote: >> >>>On April 19, 2003 at 07:27:06, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On April 19, 2003 at 04:58:33, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 19, 2003 at 04:16:36, Eran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Apparently Shredder 7.04 plays stronger than Fritz 8008 does. So I wonder >>>>>>whether there will be next match of 6 or 8 games Shredder 7.04 vs Kramnik or >>>>>>Kasparov. I hope to pass my word to any group who may sponsor it. >>>>>> >>>>>>Eran >>>>> >>>>>I hope not to see a match against these guys. >>>>> >>>>>They had an opportunities to win against Fritz and Junior and failed. >>>>>They do not deserve a prize for failing to winning Junior or Fritz. >>>>> >>>>>If humans who fail to win will be replaced then there is a bigger chance that we >>>>>are not going to see humans lose on purpose. >>>>> >>>>>There are people who claim that average GM's can get draw against computers if >>>>>they want to do it. >>>>>Both Kramnik and Kasparov failed to do it inspite of the fact that they were >>>>>leading the match but people claims that these were show events and they did not >>>>>take the games seriously. >>>>> >>>>>I think that one of the conditions for the match should be that the humans who >>>>>play against programs will not be allowed to play for money against computers >>>>>in the next 3 years if they do not win the match. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>> >>>>My suggestion is that the sponsor should not give any appearance fee and should >>>>only pay 33% of the prize if the human fail to win the match and only 50% of the >>>>prize if the human draw the match. >>>> >>>>Jorge >>> >>>You wouldn't have to worry about Kasparov and Kramnik accepting with match >>>guidelines such as these. Look in the triple digits of the FIDE rankings for >>>GMs that would participate with such a venue. >>> >>>-elc. >> >>We do not need kasparov and kramnik to participate. >>They failed to win so it is time for new players. >> >>sponsors should simply say them no. >> >>Jorge Pichard also did not susggest how much money to give the humans and only >>suggested giving them 1/3 for losing 1/2 for drawing >> >>He did not say 1/3 and 1/2 of what and he only criticized the ratio between >>the money for participating and the money for winning because you can see money >>for losing also as money for participating. >> >>The situation with kasparov was that he got 750,000$ for drawing and could get >>700,000$ for losing or 800,000 for winning. >> >>In other words you can see it as 700,000$ for losing 750,000$ for drawing and >>800,000$ for winning. >> >>Jorge suggest something like >>333,333$ for losing,500,000$ for drawing and 1,000,000$ for winning. >> >>Uri > >what i tink even more interresting is a match with 4 very strong humans and 4 >strong comps, where humans play only comps as in the old aegon tournament, the >humans will get 400,000$ for the 1st, 300,000$, 200,000$ and 100,000$ for the >next seats. > >let's say Kasparov, Kramnik, Leko and Anand againt Shredder, Chesstiger, Fritz >and Junior :) I agree that it may be more interesting and the human who finish last should participate in a qualification next time in case that he wants to play against computers again. Uri
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