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Subject: Re: "Chatter" is very important.

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 19:11:06 04/20/03

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On April 20, 2003 at 21:35:38, Sally Weltrop wrote:

>On April 20, 2003 at 12:36:57, Jonas Bylund wrote:
>
>>On April 19, 2003 at 19:49:37, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>I mean, I believe it is important enough to be worked on. Some programs have a
>>>"chatter" (or some other name), but It's not taken seriously enough IMO.
>>> It DOES have applicability to position to a small extent e.g. when it says e.g.
>>>"hey, you're touching my Queen", which might be true. And that shows that it
>>>really could make comments even much more applicable also.
>>>
>>>  So PLEASE can it be done?
>>>
>>>I tend to feel that peoples pride gets in the way which stops the good players
>>>from asking for this. It's too game-like and childish, which is basically true,
>>>the way it's done. But they wouldn't admit that even THAT may have some benefits
>>>of helping one focus on the game instead of surrounding distractions, and it's
>>>also well known that a joking remark can stimulate the mind.
>>> But it's a shame that when one tries to think into the comment, one normally
>>>realises it was just a bluff or just a BIT too arbitrary, and it was really a
>>>waste of time/effort to have even heard it. Nevertheless I have noticed that
>>>many of the comments in chatter (with Fritz) HAVE been vaguely chosen to
>>>represent the position on the board, which just makes a person listen for more,
>>>when it is just sometimes hogwash, incidental, and indeed was merely a
>>>distraction.
>>>
>>>  So, it should be done much better, and there should even be a choice of
>>>chatters. One of them should attempt to be actually instructive and thought
>>>provoking, and should inspire confidence that what is being said must be thought
>>>into.
>>>
>>>Opinions? Comments? future plans?
>>>
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>Personally the first thing i do is to switch of any chatter in any chess program
>>since i want to be able to concentrate 100%. If you are familiar with my
>>homepage/s you will know it is not because i don't like effects and animations,
>>i just don't think they belong in a chess program that's it.
>
>I am 100% agreement with u, first thing I do is the same thing, it's a novelty
>but if u want a good game who care's about those things

Well, I suppose I'm not going to be getting my chess program with any
significantly improved, or instructional, intelligent type of chatter, in the
near future, as you are all mercilesely slamming what there is as well as what
ever could come from such a thing.
Therefore I'll probably just have to live without such a luxury existing on the
market.
I'm still not convinced it can't be good, or couldn't increase sales.
I think that anything genuine pays off handsomely. A programmer has to show a
finished product (i.e. with improvements).
S.Taylor

>>
>>Jonas



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