Author: Aaron Gordon
Date: 02:05:08 04/21/03
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On April 20, 2003 at 12:44:31, Pavel Blokhine wrote: >On April 20, 2003 at 12:25:52, Aaron Gordon wrote: > >>On April 20, 2003 at 10:46:28, Pavel Blokhine wrote: >> >>>On April 20, 2003 at 08:25:21, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >>> >>>>On April 19, 2003 at 09:47:36, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On April 19, 2003 at 09:44:52, Pavel Blokhine wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 19, 2003 at 08:19:55, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>one more link, 11 pages, very slow server : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 19, 2003 at 07:46:47, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No bad news this time, the opteron systems will be out the 21st of april !! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9039 >>>>>>>>http://www.amdzone.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 19, 2003 at 01:02:15, Pavel Blokhine wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On April 18, 2003 at 23:37:04, Brian Richardson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On April 18, 2003 at 21:58:06, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks. But so far, nobody has told me if it was a faster machine than the dual >>>>>>>>>>>>Xeon 2.8Ghz...which was the thing i wanted to know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Yes dual AMD 2600+ would be faster. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Jonas >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have a dual AMD system and the SMP scalability efficiency is at best about >>>>>>>>>>1.7x vs 1.9x for the Intel systems, IIRC, so the systems would be about equal if >>>>>>>>>>the 2600+ CPUs were each about as fast as the 3GHz Intels. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Why not wait a few weeks for the newer AMD Opteron (also 64 bit)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>How many weeks do we have to wait? Isn't it delayed already? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>What is it about the AMD Opteron that would make it considerably faster than the >>>>>>other AMD or Intel processor? >>>>> >>>>>1 MB cache + memory controller on CPU + 64 Bits >>>>+ 16 registers 64 bits (instead of 8 for amd and intel 32 bits) + better >>>>internal architecture >>> >>> >>> >>>What about the acutal processors speed? Will it be available in dual processors >>>too? >> >>Should be available soon in dual, quad and eight-way configurations. Should be >>blindingly fast SMP too, because of HyperTransport and the on-chip memory >>controller. They're already starting to list Opterons on various pages but I'm >>not sure if you can get one RIGHT now though. > > >Does soon mean in one month, 3 or 6? And i see that the actual clock speed of >the opteron is only 1.8 Ghz or something? How is that faster than an a dual AMD >Athlon 2.13 Ghz or Dual Xeon 3.06 Ghz? The same way a Celeron 1GHz, P3-933MHz or 900MHz Athlon is faster than a Pentium 4 1.5GHz. MHz isn't everything. Pentium 4's were made with only 1 thing in mind, marketing. Make a chip with high MHz so people will think it's faster. To get those high MHz numbers they had to gimp the CPU, which is why the Pentium 4's are ridiculously slow MHz for MHz. In some applications it has the IPC (instructions per cycle) of a 486. I don't know about you, but I upgraded from a 486 a long time ago.. :)
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