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Subject: Re: Correction Fritz 5.32 is at least 2660 on an Athlon 1.2 GHz !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 09:46:38 04/25/03

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On April 25, 2003 at 12:24:29, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 25, 2003 at 11:53:59, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On April 25, 2003 at 11:37:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 25, 2003 at 11:08:46, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>If doubling the speed increase the strength of a program by 40 points, then the
>>>>estimated strength of Fritz 5.32 should be close to 2666 on an Athlon 1.2 Ghz.
>>>>Therefore, the Opening alone can increase a program strength from 50 to 85
>>>>points.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>>>   1 Fritz 5.0 PB30%  67MB P200 MMX          2566   25   -24   906   68%  2431
>>>>   2 Junior 5.0  64MB P200 MMX               2556   33   -31   502   67%  2435
>>>>   3 Nimzo 98  56MB P200 MMX                 2526   25   -24   812   61%  2450
>>>>   4 Rebel 9.0  45MB P200 MMX                2524   25   -25   802   63%  2432
>>>
>>>
>>>I do not know how did you get the estimate that doubling the speed can
>>>increase the strength of the program only by 40 points?
>>>
>>>I think that it is more than it and the difference is bigger at the fast time
>>>control that you played your games.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Are you one of those that support that doubling the speed of a processor could
>>yield an increase of strength of more than 40 points, and think that the
>>difference should be greater when matching a computer program versus another
>>program instead of being directly proportional. Now if the match is between
>>Human versus computer than I totally agree with you, that the difference should
>>be bigger benefiting the computer, but NOT Comp VS Comp.
>
>The opposite.
>The common conjecture is that the difference in comp-comp is bigger than the
>difference in comp-human games.
>
> Finally, the SSDF
>>estimate is way overrated, since there is noway possible that Shredder 7 could
>>reach 2765 on a mere 1.2 GHz. If that is the case then Shredder 7 or 7.04 should
>>be able to beat any of the top 3 FIDE players 80% of the times on an Athlon XP
>>3000+.
>
>I do not see how do you get it.
>Your rating is based on comp-comp games so the rating against humans is
>irrelevant.
>
>My claim is that programs earn more than 40 elo in comp-comp games if I double
>their speed.

I still don't think that programs earn more than 40 elo points in comp-comp by
doubling their speed. If that is the case Shredder 7 should reach 2765 + 40+ =>
2805+ or greater by using an Athlon XP 2400+. I don't think that is the case.

Jorge



>I do not care much about their rating against humans.
>
>Uri



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