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Subject: Re: I am puzzled, any thoughts? , Don't worry be happy NT

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 08:30:48 04/26/03

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On April 26, 2003 at 09:08:33, Geoff wrote:

>Hi
>
>I have been experimenting with a chess engine, very similar to TSCP 1.73 at the
>moment. I came across this test position which should be a mate for white in 5
>
>[D]1b6/kPp5/p1P5/R5Rr/P1N1P3/8/6p1/6Kb w - - 0 1
>
>Solution is 1.g5-c5 h5-g5 2.c5-f5 g5-h5 3.f5-g5 h5xg5 4.a5xg5 a6-a5 5.g5xa5#
>
>This chess engine uses iterative deepening and a standard alpha Beta Search
>using +/- infinity. According to my understanding it should spot the mate at Ply
>10. An alpha beta search with a +/- infinity search window should not miss a
>mate as the pruning is guarenteed to be perfect ?
>Is my understanding wrong here or must this be a bug ?
>
>The thing that really puzzled me is that I tried version 1.81 where as far as I
>can see the eval and search code is the same, but V 1.81 spots the mate at ply
>10.
>
>Thanks for any thoughts on this
>
>        regards Geoff
>
>
>
>1.73 Misses the checkmate ??
>
>ply      nodes  score  pv
>  1         28    980  g5h5
>  2         95    115  g5g2 h1g2
>  3        676    640  g5g2 h5a5 c4a5
>  4       2032    576  a5a6 a7a6 g5h5 b8a7
>  5      11687    960  c4d6 c7d6 g5h5 a7b6 h5h1
>  6      41864    571  g5e5 h5g5 a5a6 a7a6 e5g5 b8a7
>  7     306957    880  g5f5 h5g5 c4d6 c7d6 f5g5 a7b6 g5g2
>  8     932164    576  g5f5 h5g5 f5e5 g5h5 a5a6 a7a6 e5h5 b8a7
>  9    7280073    786  g5f5 h5g5 a5a6 a7a6 f5g5 b8a7 g1h2 g2g1q g5g1
> 10   14031564    845  g5c5 h5g5 e4e5 g5e5 c4e5 a7b6 c5d5 b8a7 a5c5 a7b8
>
>e4e5 is the wrong move !!! grrrrrrr
>
>
>1.81 Spots the checkmate
>ply      nodes  score  pv
>  1         28    980  g5h5
>  2         95    115  g5g2 h1g2
>  3        676    640  g5g2 h5a5 c4a5
>  4       2032    576  a5a6 a7a6 g5h5 b8a7
>  5      11687    960  c4d6 c7d6 g5h5 a7b6 h5h1
>  6      41876    571  g5e5 h5g5 a5a6 a7a6 e5g5 b8a7
>  7     307185    880  g5f5 h5g5 c4d6 c7d6 f5g5 a7b6 g5g2
>  8     935877    576  g5f5 h5g5 f5e5 g5h5 a5a6 a7a6 e5h5 b8a7
>  9    7330801    786  g5f5 h5g5 a5a6 a7a6 f5g5 b8a7 g1h2 g2g1q g5g1
> 10   13846050   9991  g5c5 h5g5 c5f5 g5h5 f5g5 h5g5 a5g5 a6a5 g5a5



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