Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 01:24:12 04/29/03
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On April 28, 2003 at 21:02:27, Axel Schumacher wrote: >On April 28, 2003 at 19:57:53, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On April 28, 2003 at 01:16:09, Axel Schumacher wrote: >> >>>News: >>> >>>-over 200 new engine-versions >>>- 60 new engines >>>- new Chessmaster settings, logos >>>- extra TOP 50 amateur ranking >>>- short engine report >>> >>>Surak's Trophy: The Trophy is an ongoing engine vs. engine tournament, played on >>>several computers (minimum hardware pentium II, 350mhz: maximum: Athlon 2100+). >>>Games played so far: #72.460 >>>GUI's: The tournament is played within the following GUI's: Fritz, Winboard, >>>Arena, Shredder-Classic and Chessmaster. >>>Number of Engine-versions: #671 >>>Time-controls: Mixed. Mostly Blitz (5m+1s); a lot of Rapids (10m+1s) and some >>>games with long time-control (40m/40moves) or tournament-time. >>>Books: Remis-book (Draw-book) or Kurzbuch (Short-book). >>> >>>Tourney-Page: >>>http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/comp/compindex.html >>>or >>>Chess-Page: >>>http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/chess.html >>>or >>>Homepage: >>>www.grailmaster.com >>> >>>Here a small excerpt of one of the rating-lists (Best-versions list): >>> >>>Place/Engine/Elo/Games >>>--------------------------------------- >>>1. Deep Fritz 7 2761 395 >>>2. Chess Tiger 14.0 2732 2301 >>>3. Hiarcs 8 2706 1024 >>>4. CM9000 Grailmaster7 2700 219 (best CM-Setting) >>>5. Ruffian 1.0.1 2688 1092 (best Amateur !) >>>6. Deep Junior 6.0 2681 1613 >>>7. Shredder 7.0 2674 354 >>>8. Green Light Chess 3.00 2653 90 (!!! Takes the 2nd Amateur place.) >>>9. SOS.3 for Arena 2642 325 >>>10. Pepito 1.59UCI 2630 268 (greatly improved !) >>>11. Delfi 4.1 2628 185 (Soon a Top-engine; I'm sure) >>>12. Gandalf 4.32UCI 2627 576 >>>13. Crafty 17.13 2626 786 (long time no improvement) >>>14. List 504 2609 430 >>>15. Zarkov 4.5e 2607 315 >>>16. Little Goliath 2000 v3.9 2603 270 >>>17. Smarthink 0.15b1 2601 116 (also a rising star) >>>18. Nimzo2000b EN 2601 80 >>>19. Aristarch 4.4 2598 502 >>>20. Yace 0.99.50 2591 403 >>>.... >>>196. Pyotr Novice 2.6 1815 143 (I'm 100% against it :-) ) >>> >> >>A great website! Keep up the good work! >> >>Just a question: how do you calculate the ratings? It seems that the ratings are >>too optimistic (minimum being over 1800). >> >> >>> >>>Cheers >>>Axel > > >Hi Omid, >it's sadly the old problem. I calculate with Fritz. Fritz gives good results IF >the Elo-startvalue is within the pgn/cbh-file. I don't have this for all engines >because it would take several hours to do so. Usually the elos for the good >engines are very accurate, the weak engines receiving too much points. >Unfortunatelt, I save the games in CB-format, therefore I can't use EloStat. It >takes also up to a day for my computer to translate 72.000 games into pgn. But >maybe I will do that in the next update. > >Axel I dont think your ratings are accurate at all, and I dont believe the Grailmaster 7 setting is the best CM-setting. Even the personality I have posted some time ago won a 100 games blitz-match against it. 52.5-47.5 (+33 =39 -28) 5 min, AMD 2200+, ponder off, Remis.ctg, 3,4,5-men, 64MB hash, alternate colours My personality lost the same match with Fritz8.ctg against Chessmaster SKR 48-52 (+29 =38 -33) I would suggest to test your personalities and programs similarly to the Kurt Utzinger and Rolf Bühler tests. Their tests are IMO exemplary. Michael
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