Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 09:24:12 05/02/03
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On May 02, 2003 at 12:05:22, Peter Berger wrote:
>On May 02, 2003 at 11:47:46, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>On May 02, 2003 at 09:01:29, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 02, 2003 at 08:36:30, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello Tony,
>>>>
>>>>which book is Ruffian using? Sorry if I am pestering you with a question
>>>>already asked, but I am really interested. Fritz 8 must be using its own Fritz
>>>>8 book (by A. Kure), how about Ruffian?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>Ruffian is using its own book available at the website. And since it's installed
>>>as an UCI engine there's no book learning. Essentials from answers to similar
>>>questions like the one above :-).
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Mogens
>>
>>Mogens,
>>
>>thanks for confirming my suspicion. Actually, as I can see, Mr. Hedlund did not
>>care to reply to my carefully phrased question. Ruffian is being tested in an
>>unfair manner. Partly due to Perola Valfridsson's benign attitude to the SSDF
>>testing methods, which is his own fault, partly due to UCI engines' not sending
>>the results back to the engine. UCI is hopeless there...
>>
>>I only wished to point out this fact that may open the eyes of the CCC members
>>who were not aware of the technicalities of this match. Fritz 8 keeps on
>>learning and finetuning its book, while Ruffian never gets back the previous
>>results... The final score should not be taken very seriously, IMHO.
>>
>>Rgds,
>>
>>Djordje
>
>As far as I know SSDF usually contact the authors and ask them with which
>settings they want their engines tested for maximum performance.
>
>If Ruffian doesnt have booklearning as an UCI engine that's a missing feature,
>nothing more, nothing less. It might be difficult to implement but it's not
>impossible, as others have it. That's similar to the time usage discussed
>somewhere else. Ruffian (only as an UCI engine?) doesn't use its time in an
>optimal way (an understatement) in 40/120. So is usage of this timecontrol
>unfair? Btw, I expect this problem to be more severe than the book issue because
>Ruffian's book is quite wide.
>
>I am convinced a future version of Ruffian will take revenge anyway :).
>
>Peter
In my opinion much noise about nothing. First of all book learning is
less effective than people think and people should only claim after having
seen the games. Ruffian's book is wide and most probably there will be not
once exactly the same opening over the 40-games-match.
Kurt
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