Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 09:37:52 05/02/03
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On May 02, 2003 at 11:35:51, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On May 02, 2003 at 09:55:23, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On May 02, 2003 at 05:59:14, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On May 01, 2003 at 13:36:02, Manfred Meiler wrote: >>> >>>>On May 01, 2003 at 13:10:04, Brian Thomas wrote: >>>> >>>>>Subject says it all ... looking for approx the best blitz settings ... thanks! >>>>> >>>>>Brian >>>> >>>> >>>>According Surak's website http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/comp/cm.html the >>>>settings "Grailmaster7" and "Tato2" should be very strong in Blitz. >>>> >>>>Manfred >>>> >>>>PS: Grailmaster7 scored very well also in test suite "WM-Test" (100 test >>>>positions à 20 minutes). >>> >>> As far as I know, both these settings do not base on a "possible" >>> CM9-setting. We do therefore not know what we are testing. That's a great >>> pity and of course of no help whatsoever for the programmer. >>> Kurt >> >>There are programmers of the GUI and there is a programmer of TheKing engine. >>As Chessmaster 9000 is a mass market product the programmers of the GUI decided >>to make the Setup of the personalities as user friendly as possible. >>Therefore they use 9,5,3,3,1 for the Material values of the default personality >>and not 100,100,100,100,100. The translation is done by the GUI. >> >>Johan de Koning of course is not interested in strong CM9-settings. >>He is probably interested in the strongest TheKing-setting, to make the next >>default engine version stronger. >>I see no problems for the programmer of the engine if there are no possible >>CM9-settings. >> >>Michael > > Hi Michael > You are wrong. The programmer is only interested in the strongest > CM9-settings which then can be "translated" via the logfile output for use > outside the CM9-GUI. If params are only changed under Fritz-GUI, Johan de > Koning cannot identify the original parameters of his engine. I know this > for sure and that's the reason why I am always asking for the original > CM9-settings and why I strictly avoid to use settings that are not > based on a CM9-GUI-setting. The whole problem has already earlier been > posted here, see http://f11.parsimony.net/forum16635/messages/39159.htm > Kurt Hi Kurt I can understand why it would be best to leave the Material/Positional value at zero. I also dont change this parameter. Lets assume a personality is found which performs over 50 ELO better than all other personalities and is not based on a CM-GUI-setting. Do you really think Johan de Koning could not reconstruct the reason for this? The problem with the CM-GUI-settings is simply you cant set slightly asymmetric material parameters for Knight,Bishop and Rook. You sometimes (especially if you have a personality with a risky style) want The King to not trade material if there is an equal strong possibility and on the other hand you dont want to weaken The Kings play too much. To set myb=123 and opb=116 can only weaken the program but myb=101 and opb=100 could slightly improve its strength. I think Johan the Koning is not happy about the fact that people use TheKing outside the Chessmaster GUI because this is not in the interest of Ubi-Soft and he eventually gets his money from them. Michael
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