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Subject: Re: SSDF(Ruffian 1.0.1 - Fritz 8)A1200, ½-2½, now 1-5

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 09:49:24 05/02/03

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On May 02, 2003 at 12:05:22, Peter Berger wrote:

>On May 02, 2003 at 11:47:46, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>On May 02, 2003 at 09:01:29, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 02, 2003 at 08:36:30, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello Tony,
>>>>
>>>>which book is Ruffian using?  Sorry if I am pestering you with a question
>>>>already asked, but I am really interested.  Fritz 8 must be using its own Fritz
>>>>8 book (by A. Kure), how about Ruffian?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>Ruffian is using its own book available at the website. And since it's installed
>>>as an UCI engine there's no book learning. Essentials from answers to similar
>>>questions like the one above :-).
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Mogens
>>
>>Mogens,
>>
>>thanks for confirming my suspicion.  Actually, as I can see, Mr. Hedlund did not
>>care to reply to my carefully phrased question.  Ruffian is being tested in an
>>unfair manner.  Partly due to Perola Valfridsson's benign attitude to the SSDF
>>testing methods, which is his own fault, partly due to UCI engines' not sending
>>the results back to the engine.  UCI is hopeless there...
>>
>>I only wished to point out this fact that may open the eyes of the CCC members
>>who were not aware of the technicalities of this match.   Fritz 8 keeps on
>>learning and finetuning its book, while Ruffian never gets back the previous
>>results...  The final score should not be taken very seriously, IMHO.
>>
>>Rgds,
>>
>>Djordje
>
>As far as I know SSDF usually contact the authors and ask them with which
>settings they want their engines tested for maximum performance.
>
>If Ruffian doesnt have booklearning as an UCI engine that's a missing feature,
>nothing more, nothing less. It might be difficult to implement but it's not
>impossible, as others have it. That's similar to the time usage discussed
>somewhere else. Ruffian (only as an UCI engine?) doesn't use its time in an
>optimal way (an understatement) in 40/120. So is usage of this timecontrol
>unfair? Btw, I expect this problem to be more severe than the book issue because
>Ruffian's book is quite wide.
>
>I am convinced a future version of Ruffian will take revenge anyway :).
>
>Peter


I agree with you that this missing feature is the author's fault.  I said so
explicitly in my message.  Too bad that such a fine engine lacks it.  I am sure
that the next release will be updated learning wise.  Your comments make sense
to me.

Rgds,

Djordje



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