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Subject: Re: Is the right product forthcoming?

Author: Ray Rogers

Date: 15:03:48 05/03/03

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On May 03, 2003 at 17:58:18, Ray Rogers wrote:

>On May 02, 2003 at 18:49:53, J. C. Boco wrote:
>
>>On May 02, 2003 at 12:51:59, Ray Rogers wrote:
>>
>>>On May 02, 2003 at 08:47:53, J. C. Boco wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 02, 2003 at 06:32:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1051739,00.asp
>>>>
>>>>As someone else pointed out already, ChessTiger isn't native for the processor
>>>>yet.  But your point is well taken.  It also drives yet another nail into the
>>>>dedicated-chess-computer market, which is really too bad.  I've always had a
>>>>soft spot for the dedicateds.
>>>
>>>I don’t go with this “……nail in the coffin of dedicated chess computer” stuff.
>>>Clearly there is still a market with people like myself just waiting for the
>>>right product. Playing strength isn’t everything. I’ve two new fast PC’s plus
>>>Fritz 8 etc. but I won’t be selling my R30 even for the £500 I‘ve been offered.
>>
>>In a way I'm waiting for the right product to come along also.  When the Star
>>Sappire or Star Diamond finally come (if they ever do) I will be tempted to buy
>>one simply because they will be the strongest on the market, perhaps not
>>counting your R30.  By the way, what is the estimated rating of your R30?
>>
>>But as for "Waiting for the right product", well, just what new products have
>>there been in the dedicated market the past few years of rating 1800+?  The two
>>computers I mentioned above have been expected for two years now, and they may
>>never materialize.  I just don't think we really can wait until the right
>>product comes along.  I think that the Novag Star Sapphire/Diamond are going to
>>be the last, because they won't make much money from them.  I just don't see any
>>product down the pipeline to wait for.
>>
>>What I hope happens is that perhaps Novag will throw a better chip into the
>>Sapphire/Diamond.  I can tell you that I belive the right product will have come
>>along if they just find a 100MHz chip to toss into the Sapphire/Diamond.  Then
>>you would have a nice dedicated with a significant increase in strength, and I
>>would probably buy it.  What is the reason, and I am presupposing there is one,
>>why you can't find a similar chip to the one already in use and use a faster
>>version?  I would even pay for an expensive dedicated chess computer which had a
>>crappy slow notebook PC chip in it (something which wouldn't require cooling).
>>There are hardware tricks Novag can do to try to enliven the dedicated market,
>>but even with high-quality people like me (ahem) and you, they probably just
>>wouldn't make enough money doing it.

R30 about 2300 I think (2400 USCF?) but a real pleasure to play. Plays less like
a computer than other DCM's so difficult for the likes of me to use any
anti-computer tactics to kid myself.



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