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Subject: Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success?

Author: Jim Bond

Date: 18:28:30 05/03/03

On May 03, 2003 at 17:52:40, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 03, 2003 at 17:50:36, Uri Blass wrote:
>
><snipped>
>>I know about programs that tablebases were counter productive for mchess because
>>it probed them too much and was slowed down by asignificant factor.
>
>I meant here that mchess is an example for a program that tablebases was counter
>productive for it.
>
>Uri

If you believe that more TB probing is counter productive, you are contradicting
with Shredder - the top program.  Take this position for example:

2k5/8/7p/8/5qP1/1Q5K/8/8 w - - 0 72

If you run infinite analysis on it with Shredder 7.04, Fritz 0.008 and
ChessTiger 15, you will find that the Shredder accumlates TB counts about 8
times more than Fritz and about 16 times more than ChessTiger.  If TB probing is
counter productive, how come Shredder does it so much more and can still be at
the top?

Jim

Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Tom Kerrigan 20:22:05 05/03/03
- Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 20:47:13 05/03/03
  - Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 22:07:52 05/03/03
    - Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 23:10:17 05/03/03
      - Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 23:33:35 05/03/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 00:06:25 05/04/03
    - Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Ricardo Gibert 23:03:25 05/03/03
      - Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 23:19:17 05/03/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Tom Kerrigan 02:06:10 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 06:41:33 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 07:09:55 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 07:44:15 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 08:20:56 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 09:11:11 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 10:27:35 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 11:19:14 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 12:23:19 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 14:15:04 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Tom Kerrigan 17:12:34 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Dieter Buerssner 14:41:30 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Sune Fischer 15:49:44 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Dieter Buerssner 12:32:43 05/05/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Sune Fischer 13:00:35 05/05/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 16:10:07 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Sune Fischer 16:22:15 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 09:36:04 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Uri Blass 07:23:03 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 07:56:15 05/04/03
        
        Re: What's the Secret to Shredder 7.04 Success? Jim Bond 23:26:09 05/03/03

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