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Subject: Re: ICCC 2003, revolutional hardware ?

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 03:41:21 05/04/03

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On May 03, 2003 at 13:56:13, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On May 03, 2003 at 06:13:32, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>During the last ICCC, in 2002, the best programs used :
>>Shredder          Athlon 2 x 2100+ MP
>>Quest             Athlon 2 x 2000+ MP
>>Deep Junior 7    Pentium-IV 2 x 2.2 GHz
>>
>>This year the fastest hardware available should be a 8-way AMD64 3200+ : about 2
>>ply deeper !!! This mean more solid positions and more firework tactical
>>positions, great ! I will follow this closely ...
>>
>
>I soubt that anyone will use a 8-way machine.


Chessbase got often sponsoring from computer society
Dual Athlon MP 2000+ in in Leiden 2002 :
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=339
Even 2 servers for Kasparov-Junior match :
http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt03.htm
And a server for the Kramnik-Fritz match too

> How do you came to the conclusion,
>that such a machine would give two extra plies? With a branching factor of 3 you
>need a machine which is 9 times faster to get two extra plies.


I counted with a 2.5 branching factor :
As you can see here the memory management for the opteron is better than the
Athlon (who is bad in dual configuration)
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000253
a Dual AMD Athlon MP 2100 translate into 2100+0.7*2100 = 3570 "usefull Mhz"
a 8-way AMD64 3200+ translate into 3200+0.7*7*3200 = 18880 "usefull Mhz"
5.3 faster + better memory management -> about 2 ply deeper


>I doubt that
>anyone will use an opteron machine, since I think nobody will be able to rewrite


The AMD64 don't need a rewrite, they run 32 bits applications and a simple
recompile with suited compiler can give + 15% performance


>his program for 64Bit architecture until the event. I think we will see
>Dual-Xeon 3.06 Ghz and maybe Dual-Athlons 3000+ but that will not even double
>the speed.
>>
>>longer list of 2002 hardware :
>>
>>SHREDDER      Dual AMD Athlon MP 2100
>>JUNIOR        Dual PIV 2.2  Ghz / PIII 1 Ghz
>>QUEST         Dual AMD Athlon MP 2000+
>>GOLIATH       AMD XP 1500
>>DIEP          Teras (60 processors 500 Mhz)
>>BRUTUS        Xilinx Virtix FPGA and AMD 1 Ghz
>>PASSOS        Dual PIII 1Ghz
>>INSOMMIAC     AMD XP 2100
>>WARP          Pentium IV 1.7 Ghz
>>ISICHESS X    AMD 2.1 Ghz
>>IKARUS        AMD Athlon 2000+
>>POSTMODERNIST Pentium IV 1.7 Ghz
>>SJENG         AMD Athlon 1800
>>SHARKY        Pentium III 500 Mhz
>>CHINITO 2.1   Pentium IV 1.7 Ghz
>>XINIX         AMD Athlon 2000+
>>NOONIANCHESS  Penitum IV 2 Ghz
>>SPIDERCHESS   AMD XP 2000



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