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Subject: Re: How many programs can .. , another position maybe more interesting

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:18:05 05/05/03

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On May 05, 2003 at 17:51:09, Richard Pijl wrote:

>On May 05, 2003 at 16:52:59, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On May 05, 2003 at 16:44:38, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>
>>>>[D]8/1p1k4/4p2p/1PP2pp1/2KP4/7P/6P1/8 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>This is a draw (I hope ;) ).
>>>>Peter
>>>
>>>The Baron doesn't seem to agree on that:
>>>
>>> 14(45).   1856 509122289    298  d4d5 e6d5 c4d5 d7c7 d5e6 f5f4 e6f5 c7d7 f5g6
>>>h6h5 g6g5 d7e8 g5h5 e8f7 c5c6 f4f3 c6b7
>>
>>No doubt. Fritz even has +5 after more than an hour of search - as I explained,
>>computers don't understand this motive. But I am pretty sure I am right :)
>>
>>It's much easier to understand for a human.
>>
>>A sample line:
>>
>>1. d5 e5! 2. b6 e4 3. Kd5 h5 4. g4 fxg4 5. fxg4 h4 and the draw is quite
>>obvious.
>>
>>Peter
>
>You're right Peter.
>
>After forcing 1..e5 Baron's score jumped to +5 as well, but when looking at the
>line that came with it, it is a simple draw.
>
>Richard.

I do not understand the high positional score of Fritz and Baron.

White is only one pawn up after d5 e5 and there are no unstoppable passed pawns.
I could understand positional score of a pawn or 2 for white to get total score
of 2-3 pawns(white has pawns that are more advanced and it is more easy to win
with advantage in a pawn endgame) but not positional score of 4 pawns.

Uri



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