Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 04:09:10 05/07/03
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On May 07, 2003 at 06:59:16, Ryan B. wrote:
>On May 07, 2003 at 06:52:42, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 07, 2003 at 06:37:22, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On May 06, 2003 at 19:54:18, Rex wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 06, 2003 at 16:09:01, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Indeed the engine is with CB for a while now. CB had a technical delay due to
>>>>>>Easter - Junior8 will be released in about 10 days
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shay
>>>>>
>>>>>What are the Beta testers saying in comparison to Shredder7 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>It will be no different than any other program release. It comes out, people
>>>>get it, and gets old after 3 days then wonders when the next release will come
>>>>out.
>>>
>>> Hi Rex
>>> Just great comment about the computer chess scene. It comes out, people get
>>> it, play some stupid blitz games and after 3 days up to a week are crying
>>> for the next version. And as soon as we have 5000 Mhz PC's people are
>>> playing games at level 0s+1s ... Crazy chesscomputer world. I will never
>>> change my mind: quality is more important than quantity.
>>> Kurt
>>
>>Maybe if you start to develop your chess program you will change your mind.
>>Bullet games are important for detecting bugs that are not relevant only for
>>bullet.
>>
>>If after changing your evaluation you see that the new version fail to win in
>>bullet a simple win that the
>>old version had no problem to win then you may know that you probably have a bug
>>in your evaluation.
>>
>>If you play only long time control games you will have the following problems:
>>
>>1)You will need more time to detect bugs.
>>2)you may not discover part of the evaluation bugs because search is going to
>>hide them and you will not see the program missing simple win and the mistakes
>>of the program may be more complex so you may miss them.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Shouldn't commercial chess programs have those small eval bugs worked out
>already so we can enjoy a real game of chess and not worry about bullet game
>results?
>
>Ryan
That's the point.
Kurt
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