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Subject: Re: How many programs can select the 1......h6! drawish move ?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 09:38:02 05/07/03

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On May 07, 2003 at 02:39:21, Jarkko Pesonen wrote:

>On May 06, 2003 at 18:36:37, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On May 06, 2003 at 08:55:07, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On May 06, 2003 at 07:05:02, Jarkko Pesonen wrote:
>>>
>>>>Crafty 19.3 ends up in this position
>>>>    white       black
>>>>  1  d5          e5
>>>>  2  c6+         bxc6
>>>>  3  bxc6+       Kc8
>>>>  4  d6          e4
>>>>  5  Kd4         h5
>>>>  6  g4          hxg4
>>>>  7  hxg4        f4
>>>>  8  Kxe4        ...
>>>>
>>>>[D]2k5/8/2PP4/6p1/4KpP1/8/8/8 b
>>>>
>>>> 21->   1:40   6.47   1. ... Kd8 2. Kd4 Kc8 3. Kd3 Kd8 4.
>>>>                     Ke4 Kc8 5. Kf3 Kd8 6. Kf2 Kc8 7. Ke2
>>>>                     Kd8 8. Kd3 Kc8 9. Kc3 Kd8 10. Kd2 Kc8
>>>>                     11. Ke1 f3
>>>>
>>>>Seems that crafty isn't doing any progress and score is totally wrong(seems to
>>>>be draw).
>>>>
>>>>Is there an easy way to fix this?
>>>>Or is this some kind off odd situation that is so rare that it is not
>>>>worth fixing?
>>>>
>>>>Jarkko
>>>
>>>
>>>That can be fixed.  It is the classic problem of two connected passed pawns
>>>being valued too high in a king and pawn ending.  If they were separated,
>>>white would win easily.  But together, they can be stopped.  I will look
>>>at this and fix it.  The code is already there, it just has a hole that I
>>>apparently overlooked.
>>
>>From the diagrammed position:
>>
>>1...Kd8 2.d7 Ke7 3.Kd4 Kd8 4.Kd5 Ke7
>>
>>    if 4...Kc7? 5.Ke6 f3 6.Ke7 7.f2 e8=Q+ wins more easily.
>>
>>5.Kc5 f3 6.Kb6 f2
>>
>>    if 6...Kd8? 7.Kb7 f2 8.c7+ Kxd7 9.c8=Q+ wins more easily too.
>>
>>7.Kc7 f1=Q 8.d8=Q+ looks like a win to me.
>
>You mean that the original position wasn't draw after all.
>Can you refute moves


Probably not. Not because I don't think they can be refuted, but because I'm too
damn lazy to try! Sorry.


>    white       black
>  1  d5          e5
>  2  c6+         bxc6
>  3  bxc6+       Kc8
>  4  d6          e4
>  5  Kd4         h5
>  6  g4          hxg4
>  7  hxg4        f4
>  8  Kxe4        ...



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