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Subject: Re: Tactical test position (Nxf7)

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 06:26:42 05/08/03

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On May 08, 2003 at 08:43:37, Roy Brunjes wrote:

>On May 08, 2003 at 08:21:19, Dennis Breuker wrote:

It's certainly (to the naked eye) a piece for 2 pawns and more, if not a good
bit more! It can't be TOO much of a mistake!
If there were serious looking counter attacking ideas for Black, then it might
need more investigation.
S.Taylor
>
>>In a game I played last Tuesday, the following position occurred:
>>
>>[D] r3k1nr/ppqnbpp1/2p1p2p/4Nb2/2BP4/2N5/PPPBQPPP/2KR3R w kq - bm Nxf7
>>
>>Solution:
>>11.Nxf7 Kxf7 12.g4 Bh7 13.Qxe6+ Ke8 14.Rhe1 (other moves might work
>>as well). White is winning here. Black only has passive pieces,
>>and all White's pieces are developed.
>>
>>  In the game I played first
>>11.g4,
>>  but that is wrong, since Black can play 11..Nxe5.
>>  Luckily, Black played
>>11..Bh7?,
>>  and after
>>12.Nxf7
>>  the variation above is reached.
>>
>>  My game continued
>>12..Kxf7 13.Qxe6+ Ke8 14.Rhe1 Kd8 15.Qf7!
>>  (15.d5 also good)
>>15..Qd6
>>  (on 15..g5 there follows 16.d5 cxd5
>>    [16..Ne5 17.Rxe5! Qxe5 18.dxc6 Kc7 19.Nd5+ Kxc6 20.Bc3]
>>  17.Bxd5)
>>16.Re6 Qb4 17.Bb3! and Black resigned.
>>  (On 17..Qb6 there follows 18.d5!)
>>
>>Does your engine find the move, and the right continuation?
>>
>>It looks like some engines want to take on f7, but after
>>11..Kxf7 12.g4 Bh7 13.Qxe6+ Ke8 suddenly think it is not
>>as good as the engine hoped for...
>>
>>It seems that Fritz(6) does not want to take on f7,
>>but it definitely is the winning move!
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dennis
>
>Here is what CM9000 SKR sees on my P4 1.8 GHz with 64 MB hash:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:07	1/9	1.24	1016041		1.Nxf7 Kxf7 2.g4 Bh7 3.Qxe6+ Ke8
>					4.Qf7+ Kd8 5.Rhe1 g5 6.Ne4 b5 7.Qg7
>0:15	1/9	1.29	2050760		1.Bf4 g5 2.g4 Bxg4 3.Qxg4 Ngf6
>					4.Nxf7 Nxg4 5.Bxc7 Kxf7
>0:37	1/10	1.43	5000655		1.Bf4 g5 2.g4 gxf4 3.gxf5 Nxe5
>					4.dxe5 b5 5.f6 bxc4 6.fxe7 Nxe7
>1:53	1/11	1.44	15998575	1.Bf4 g5 2.g4 gxf4 3.gxf5 Nxe5
>					4.dxe5 b5 5.fxe6 bxc4 6.Qxc4 f5
>					7.Rhe1
>5:06	1/12	1.54	44959112	1.Bf4 Bg5 2.Bxg5 Nxe5 3.dxe5 hxg5
>					4.g4 Bg6 5.Qd2 Qxe5 6.Qd7+ Kf8
>					7.Qxb7 Qf4+ 8.Kb1 Re8 9.Qxc6 Qxf2
>
>It is pretty sure it doesn't like Nxf7 after 15 seconds.  I have not analyzed
>the position myself to see what might be happening (and not happening!) in the
>position, so I cannot comment on the correctness or incorrectness of Nxf7.
>
>Roy



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