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Subject: Re: Who is right here? Man or machine

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 10:55:55 05/09/03

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On May 09, 2003 at 10:12:40, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>[D] rnbqkb1r/pp1np1pp/4p3/2pp4/3P4/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq c6 0 5
>
>What do your programs think about this well known position?
>Shredder and Fritz 8 clearly favour white here. for example :
>
>Analysis by Shredder 7.04:
>
>6.Nf3 g6 7.Ng5 Nf6 8.Bb5+ Nc6 9.0-0 Bg7 10.Re1 e5 11.Bxc6+ Qd7
>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 10/10   00:00:00  6kN
>6.Nf3 g6 7.Ng5 Nf6 8.Bb5+ Nc6 9.0-0 Bg7 10.Re1 e5 11.Bxc6+ Qd7
>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 11/11   00:00:00  16kN
>6.Nf3 g6 7.Ng5 cxd4 8.Bb5 Nc6 9.Nxe6 Qa5 10.Nxf8 dxc3 11.Qxd5
>  ±  (0.83)   Depth: 12/28   00:00:04  1435kN
>6.dxc5
>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 12/28   00:00:05  1435kN
>6.dxc5
>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 12/28   00:00:05  1503kN
>6.dxc5 g6 7.Qd4 Nf6 8.Nf3 Nc6 9.Nxd5 Nxd4 10.Bb5+
>  ±  (0.93)   Depth: 13/30   00:00:24  8276kN
>6.dxc5 g6 7.Qd4 Nf6 8.Nf3 Bg7 9.Bb5+ Bd7 10.0-0 0-0 11.Bxd7
>  ±  (0.90)   Depth: 14/30   00:00:51  16690kN
>6.dxc5 g6 7.Qd4 Nf6 8.Bg5 Nc6 9.Bb5 h6 10.Bf4 g5 11.Be5 Bg7 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Qf4
>  ±  (0.88)   Depth: 15/31   00:01:44  35928kN
>
>Looks like there is a clear advantage for white. White is a pawn down and the
>evaluation is almost +1.0.
>
>However strong Chessplayers clearly seem to favour black here. Here are the
>highest rated Chessplayers who played this position in the last 6 years. All
>played with black pieces. All games ended 0-1:
>
>[Event "Santos Mario Covas 1st"]
>[Site "Santos"]
>[Date "2001.01.29"]
>[Round "3"]
>[White "Benares de sa Leitao, Ricardo"]
>[Black "Milos, Gilberto"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "B02"]
>[WhiteElo "2276"]
>[BlackElo "2608"]
>[PlyCount "60"]
>

Just my two cents if Milos with a 2608 had White against Benares with Black
which is a 300+ plus difference in rating and Benares wins than the case would
be open for discussion. In this case the stonger player simply outplayed the
weaker player.

Jorge



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