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Subject: Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:53:20 10/15/98

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On October 15, 1998 at 03:16:42, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On October 14, 1998 at 22:05:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>[snip]
>>the last time I tried this, on a P5/133, crafty at 1 minute per move could beat
>>a tablebase program from the worst case (mate in 34) within 50 moves.  When I
>>tried it at real fast time controls, it could win, from this position, but not
>>within 50 moves.  For more normal positions, which are mate-in-15 or so, it
>>could win those quite easily...  It only needs enough search to see the mate
>>at the end, something like a mate in 4 or so, which takes a fraction of a
>>second.
>>
>>I have two "mate boards" and use the "right" one depending on the bishop I
>>have.  I assume it still works, but will run the test in a few minutes on my
>>notebook to see...  just like KQ vs KR tests...
>Important tablebase question:
>At extremely fast time controls (say, one to ten seconds per move) are tablebase
>lookups a waste of time?  I really need to know the answer to this question.
>Even more pivotal is: "What is the break-even point" in time controls?


I use 'em on any search longer than one picosecond.

:)

They are *always* more efficient, becuase they provide *perfect* information
while the search can't...



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