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Subject: Re: Answering questions from F. Huber

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 18:53:48 05/12/03

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On May 12, 2003 at 14:35:21, John Merlino wrote:

>> Hello John,
>>
>> because you are certainly _the_ expert for ChessMaster/TheKing,
>> I hope that you´ll be able to answer the following question -
>> nobody else seems to really know that:
>>
>> Has this strange King parameter ´ana´ any meaning for TheKing?
>> And if yes, what is its special purpose?
>
>The "ana=" parameter is the one that is used in CM9000 for the "Mentor Lines"
>window to request a certain number of "best lines". So, "ana=3" will produce at
>least 3 PVs for each depth.

Here is a logfile with Mentor Lines = 6
IMO the GUI always sends ana=1 to the engine and the "analyze x" command
is used to request a certain number of best lines.

Michael

0.000: - Starting server: c:\Chessmaster9000\TheKing323.exe
0.040: - Priority class set to normal
0.040: - Thread priority set to normal
0.040: > xboard
0.040: > cm_parm opk=36638
0.040: > cm_parm ana=1
0.040: > post
0.040: > new
0.040: > level 0 0 0
0.040: > cm_parm default
0.040: > cm_parm opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100
0.040: > cm_parm myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=101
0.040: > cm_parm mycc=105 mymob=110 myks=155 mypp=100 mypw=100
0.040: > cm_parm opcc=105 opmob=110 opks=155 oppp=100 oppw=100
0.040: > cm_parm cfd=0 sop=100 avd=-2 rnd=0 sel=12 md=99
0.040: > cm_parm tts=67108864
0.040: > hard
0.040: > force
0.040: > analyze
0.040: > exit
0.040: > analyze 6
0.040: > exit
0.040: > analyze 6
0.040: > .
0.190: < cm_parm opk=36638
0.190: < cm_parm ana=1
0.190: < cm_parm default
0.190: < cm_parm opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100
0.190: < cm_parm myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=101
0.190: < cm_parm mycc=105 mymob=110 myks=155 mypp=100 mypw=100
0.190: < cm_parm opcc=105 opmob=110 opks=155 oppp=100 oppw=100
0.190: < cm_parm cfd=0 sop=100 avd=-2 rnd=0 sel=12 md=99
0.190: < cm_parm tts=67108864
0.200: <  3001   +16      1       566 Nf3 Nf6 d3 d6
0.210: <  3001   +16      1       779 Nf3 Nf6 d3 d6
0.220: <  3001   +16      1       779 Nf3 Nf6 d3 d6
0.220: < stat01:      1      1024  3001  18  20 e4 Nf6 Nc3 Rg8
0.220: <  3001   +16      1      1216 e4 e5 d4 d5
0.230: <  3001   +13      2      1332 d4 Nf6 Nf3 d6
0.230: <  3001    +7      2      1589 e3 Nf6 Nf3 d6
0.230: <  3001    +7      2      1679 Nc3 d5 e4 e6
0.230: <  3001    +0      2      1771 d3 e5 Nf3 Nc6
0.240: <  4001   +31      3      2787 Nf3 Nf6 d3 d5 Be3
0.250: <  4001   +34      4      3562 e4 e5 d4 d5 Nf3 dxe4 Nxe5
0.250: <  4001   +24      4      4002 d4 Nf6 Nf3 d5 Bf4
0.260: <  4001   +23      5      4860 e3 d5 d4 Nf6 Nf3
0.270: <  4001   +38      6      5341 Nc3 d5 e4 Nf6 exd5 Nxd5
0.270: <  4001   +28      6      5724 d3 e5 Nf3 Bb4+ c3
0.290: <  5001   +16      8      8192 Nc3 Nc6 d4 d5 Nf3 Nf6
0.310: <  5001   +16     10     10776 e4 Nc6 Nc3 e5 Nf3 Nf6
0.320: <  5001   +16     11     12393 Nf3 Nf6 e3 Nc6 d4 d5
0.340: <  5001    -2     13     14307 d3 e5 Nf3 Nc6 e4 d5
0.350: <  5001   +15     14     15634 d4 Nf6 Nc3 d5 Nf3 Bf5
0.370: <  5001   +16     16     17826 e3 d5 Nf3 Nc6 d4 Nf6
0.450: <  6001   +34     24     28129 Nc3 Nc6 Nf3 d5 e4 Nf6 d3
0.540: <  6001   +34     33     34184 e4 Nc6 Nc3 e5 Nf3 Bc5 d3
0.601: <  6001   +34     39     41809 Nf3 Nc6 e4 d5 Nc3 Nf6 d3
0.631: <  6001   +30     42     46597 e3 d5 Nf3 Nd7 d4 e6 Bb5
0.651: <  6001   +29     44     49196 d4 Nf6 Nf3 d5 Bf4 Nc6 e3
0.671: <  6001   +13     46     52613 d3 e5 Nf3 Nc6 e4 d5 Nc3
0.901: <  7001   +16     69     85464 Nc3 d5 d4 Nf6 Nf3 Nc6 Bf4 Bf5
1.071: <  7001   +27     86    111073 e4 e5 Nc3 Nc6 Nf3 Bc5 d4 exd4
1.211: > .
1.211: < stat01:    100    132096  7001  17  20 Nf3 b6 e3 h6 null
1.231: <  7001   +16    102    134353 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 d5 d4 Nc6 Bf4 Bf5
1.312: <  7001   +12    110    149291 e3 Nf6 Nf3 Nc6 d4 d6 Bb5 Be6
1.372: <  7001   +16    116    158542 d4 Nf6 Nf3 d5 Bf4 Nc6 Nc3 Bf5
1.442: <  7001    -3    123    169771 d3 e5 Nc3 d5 e4 Nf6 exd5 Nxd5
1.592: <  7001    +8    138    193547 c4 e5 Nc3 Nc6 Nf3 Nf6 d4 exd4 Nxd4
2.233: > .
2.233: < stat01:    202    294912  8001  19  20 e4 h5 null d5 Qf3 dxe4 Bb5+ Nc6
Bxc6+ bxc6 Qxf7+
2.263: <  8001   +43    204    298805 e4 e5 Nc3 Nc6 Nf3 Nf6 d4 exd4 Nxd4
2.473: <  8001   +27    226    333707 Nc3 d5 d4 Nf6 Nf3 Nc6 Bf4 Bf5 e3
2.734: <  8001   +28    252    375000 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 d5 d3 c5 e4 Nc6 Bf4
3.184: <  8001   +29    297    443096 d4 Nf6 Bf4 d6 Nc3 Nc6 e4 e5
3.214: > .
3.214: < stat01:    300    447488  8001  15  20 e3 Nf6 e4 Nxe4 Qg4 Nf6 Bc4
3.445: <  8001   +28    323    485886 e3 Nf6 Nf3 d5 Be2 Nc6 0-0 e5 d4
3.745: <  8001   +20    353    534035 c4 e5 Nc3 Nf6 e3 Bd6 d4 0-0 Be2
4.216: > .
4.216: < stat01:    400    616448  9001  19  20 e4 e5 Nc3 Bc5 Nf3 b6 Nxe5 Qg5
Nf3
5.227: > .
5.227: < stat01:    501    788480  9001  19  20 e4 h6 d4 e5 dxe5 Bd6 null Bb4+
5.297: <  9001   +31    508    799900 e4 e5 Nc3 Nc6 Nf3 Nf6 d4 exd4 Nxd4 Bb4
6.219: > .
6.219: < stat01:    600    950272  9001  18  20 d4 d5 Nf3 Be6 Bf4 Nd7 Nc3 Nh6
6.839: <  9001   +17    662   1058531 d4 d5 Nf3 Nf6 e3 e6 Be2 Bd6 0-0 0-0
7.220: > .
7.220: < stat01:    701   1122304  9001  17  20 Nf3 e5 Nxe5 Qg5 Nf3
7.671: <  9001   +17    746   1204721 Nf3 Nf6 e3 e6 Bd3 Nc6 0-0 Bd6 Nc3 0-0
8.241: > .
8.241: < stat01:    803   1305600  9001  16  20 e3 e5 c3 null Nf3 Nc6 d4 Bc5
8.632: <  9001   +15    842   1373705 e3 e5 d4 exd4 exd4 d5 Nc3 Bb4 Bb5+ c6
9.093: <  9001   +16    888   1456848 Nc3 d5 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Bf5 e3 Nc6 Nf3 e6
9.223: > .
9.233: < stat01:    902   1479680  9001  14  20 c4 e5 Nc3 f5 Nf3 h5 Nxe5 Qf6
10.224: > .
10.224: < stat01:   1001   1651712  9001  14  20 c4 b6 Nc3 c5 d4 d5 null Bb7
10.294: <  9001   +14   1008   1665046 c4 e5 e3 Nf6 d4 exd4 exd4 d5 Nc3 Bb4
11.236: > .
11.236: < stat01:   1102   1825792 10001  19  20 e4 e5 Nc3 Bb4 Nf3 g6 null Nc6
d4 exd4 Nxd4 Bxc3+ bxc3 Nxd4 cxd4
11.967: > time -300
11.967: > otim 0
11.967: > g1f3
11.997: <  3001   -15      1       770 Nf6 d3 d5 Be3
11.997: <  3001   -36      1       880 d6 e4 Nf6 Nc3
11.997: <  3001   -15      1       977 d5 d3 Nf6 Be3
11.997: <  3001   -22      1      1394 e6 d4 Bb4+ c3
11.997: <  3001   -30      1      1580 Nc6 d4 d5 Bf4
12.007: <  3001   -38      2      1875 e5 Nxe5 d6
12.007: <  4001    +1      2      3029 Nf6 Nc3 d5 d4 Bf5
12.017: <  4001    -4      3      3309 d5 d3 Nf6 Be3 Nc6
12.027: <  4001    -2      3      4457 e6 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Nc6
12.027: <  4001    -1      4      4804 Nc6 d4 d5 Bf4 Nf6
12.027: <  4001   -11      4      5382 d6 e4 Nf6 Bb5+ Bd7
12.037: <  4001   -27      5      6634 e5 d4 exd4 Qxd4 Nc6
12.067: <  5001   -19      8     11064 Nf6 e4 Nxe4 d3 Nf6 Nc3
12.077: <  5001   -17      9     13672 Nc6 Nc3 d5 e4 Nf6 d3
12.097: <  5001   -18     11     15998 e6 e4 d5 exd5 exd5 d4
12.117: <  5001   -17     13     18670 d5 Nc3 Nf6 d3 Nc6 e4
12.127: <  5001   -35     14     20236 d6 e4 Nf6 Nc3 e5 d4
12.137: <  5001   -32     15     22062 e5 Nxe5 d6 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3
12.207: <  6001    -6     22     32285 Nc6 e4 e5 Nc3 Bc5 d4 exd4
12.257: > .
12.267: < stat01:     28     35840  6001  18  20 d5 d4 e5 dxe5 Bb4+ c3
12.307: <  6001    -3     32     42313 d5 e3 Nd7 d4 e6 Bb5 Nf6
12.347: <  6001    -5     36     49278 e6 e4 d5 exd5 exd5 Bb5+ c6
12.387: <  6001    +0     40     55933 Nf6 d4 d5 Bf4 Bf5 Nc3 Nc6
12.417: <  6001   -16     43     60047 e5 Nxe5 d6 Nf3 Nf6 d4 Be6
12.438: <  6001   -26     45     63142 d6 e4 Nf6 Nc3 e5 d4 Nc6
12.588: <  6001   -20     60     83968 c6 Nc3 Nf6 d4 d5 Bf4 Nbd7
12.748: <  7001   -12     76    109694 Nf6 Nc3 d5 d4 Nc6 Bf4 Bf5 e3
12.898: <  7001   -12     91    132243 d5 e3 Nf6 Be2 Nc6 0-0 e5 d4
13.018: <  7001   -17    103    150329 e6 e4 d5 exd5 exd5 d4 Nf6 Nc3
13.078: <  7001   -21    109    159233 Nc6 e4 e5 Nc3 Bc5 d4 Bxd4 Nxd4 Nxd4
13.159: <  7001   -27    117    173729 e5 Nxe5 Nc6 Nxc6 dxc6 Nc3 Nf6 e4
13.299: <  7001   -35    131    195131 c6 e3 d5 Be2 Nd7 0-0 e5 d4
13.499: > .
13.499: < stat01:    151    224256  7001   3  20 c5 a3 Nc6 Rg1
13.519: <  7001   -32    153    227497 c5 Nc3 Nc6 e4 e6 d4 cxd4 Nxd4
13.749: > time -300
13.749: > otim 0
13.749: > d7d5
13.779: <  3001   +21      1      1012 d3 Nf6 Be3 e6
13.779: <  3001   +15      1      1338 Nc3 Nf6 d4 Bf5
13.779: <  3001   +16      1      1438 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Bf5
13.779: <  3001   +16      1      1758 e3 Nc6 d4 Nf6
13.789: <  3001    +0      2      2160 h3 Nf6 d4 Bf5
13.789: <  3001    -1      2      2536 Na3 Nf6 d4 Bf5
13.799: <  4001   +30      3      4026 d3 Nc6 Bf4 Nf6 Nbd2
13.799: <  4001   +29      3      4392 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Nc6 e3
13.820: <  4001   +30      6      7150 e3 Nd7 d4 e6 Bb5
13.830: <  4001   +34      7      8325 Nc3 Nf6 d3 Nc6 e4
13.840: <  4001   +10      8      9066 h3 Nf6 d3 e6 Be3
13.840: <  4001   +14      8     10233 Na3 Nc6 d4 Nf6 c4
13.870: <  5001    +4     11     14234 Nc3 d4 Nb5 Nc6 e3 e5 exd4 exd4
13.890: <  5001   +15     13     17339 d3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 Bf4 Be6
13.910: <  5001   +18     15     20033 e3 Nd7 d4 e6 Bb5 c6
13.920: <  5001   +16     16     21710 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Nc6 Nc3 Bf5
13.940: <  5001    -5     18     24941 Na3 Nf6 d3 Nc6 Bf4 e6
13.950: <  5001    -2     19     27161 h3 Nf6 d4 Bf5 Nc3 Nc6
14.040: <  5001    -2     28     33636 c4 dxc4 e4 Nf6 Bxc4 Nxe4
14.140: <  6001   +28     38     49327 e3 Nf6 Be2 Nc6 0-0 e5 d4
14.200: <  6001   +28     44     57020 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Bf5 e3 Nbd7 Nc3
14.260: <  6001   +28     50     64926 d3 Nf6 Nc3 c5 e4 Nc6 Bf4
14.310: <  6001   +27     54     71618 Nc3 Nc6 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Bf5 e3
14.370: <  6001    +9     60     80504 h3 Nf6 d3 e6 Nc3 Bb4 Be3
14.440: <  6001   +26     68     92054 c4 Nf6 d4 dxc4 e4 e6 Nc3
14.490: > .
14.490: < stat01:     73     98304  6001   8  22 e4 dxe4 c4 null Ng5
14.591: <  6001   +14     83    113709 g3 Nf6 Bg2 c5 d4 cxd4 Nxd4
14.901: <  7001   +22    114    163432 e3 Nf6 Be2 Nc6 0-0 Bf5 d4 e6
15.091: <  7001   +17    133    190754 d4 Nf6 e3 e6 Be2 Bd6 0-0 0-0
15.312: <  7001   +10    155    225642 d3 Nf6 Bf4 e6 Nbd2 Nc6 e3 Bd6 Bxd6 cxd6
15.472: <  7001    +6    171    251807 Nc3 d4 Ne4 Nc6 e3 f5 Ng3 e5 exd4 exd4
15.702: <  7001   +11    194    286618 c4 dxc4 e4 Nc6 Bxc4 Nf6 Nc3 e5
15.742: > .
15.742: < stat01:    198    292864  7001  16  22 g3 Nf6 e3 Bf5 Bb5+ Nc6 d3
15.882: <  7001    -5    212    317804 g3 c5 d4 Nc6 dxc5 e5 Be3 Nf6
16.133: <  7001    +2    237    356865 c3 Nf6 d4 Nc6 Bf4 Bf5 Nbd2 e6
17.044: <  8001   +31    328    499553 e3 Nf6 d4 e6 Bd2 Be7 Bd3 0-0 0-0
17.345: > quit


>
>> And one other thing I´m still confused about:
>> Since a long time now I´m really impressed about King´s ability
>> in solving mate problems very fast. The only thing I don´t like
>> is, that almost everytime TheKing first finds deeper solutions
>> than necessary, and eventually finds a shorter (or the shortest?)
>> mate after some further calculation.
>> So I had the idea to set Kings selectivity to 0 (sel=0), and I
>> hoped to get _only_ the real _shortest_ mate - but without success!
>> Also with sel=0 TheKing still seems to calculate deeper than its
>> actual depth.
>> Now my question:
>> Do _I_ think ´wrong´ here (that sel=0 should work), or doesn´t
>> take TheKing this setting as strictly as I would believe?
>
>From what I know about the sel parameter, this should work, as "sel=0" pretty
>much is the same thing as using the "Solve for Mate" feature in CM9000. Could
>you post the position so I can test it?
>
>jm



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