Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 08:07:55 05/15/03
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On May 15, 2003 at 06:31:39, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 15, 2003 at 05:33:21, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On May 14, 2003 at 18:53:05, Peter Berger wrote: >> >>>Or maybe neither? >>> >>>I have only looked at the analysis of game 5, move 16 so far. Let's try with >>>Huebner's mainline: >>> >>>16. g3 Nh2+ 17. Kf2 Ng4+ 18. Ke1 Qh3 19. Rg1 Nd7 20. e4 dxe4 21. Nxe4 Qh2 22. >>>Rf1 Qg2 23. Bc1 >>> >>>Here Huebner only gives 23. ...Nh2 when 23. ...Nf6 looks like a clear >>>improvement IMHO and I think if someone has problems it isn't black. I have >>>analyzed this position for some time with the help of the Fritz chessengine. >>> >>>This is a position Kasparov had to consider when choosing his 16th move or >>>taking the draw instead, and if there really is no advantage for white here, it >>>means that Huebner, a great analyzer, couldn't find anything promising after >>>_weeks_ of analysis passed. >> >> >>I can't see the point you are trying to make. Are you saying that if FRITZ gave >>23... Nf6 and huebner gives only 23...Nh2, that then huebner after several >>months of analysis must have a hole in his thinking? Somehow that would astonish >>me. But wait please, I must analyse it with FRITZ myself before I can give you a >>final verdict. :)) > >Heubner analysis is not convincing if he does not >analyze 23...Nf6 > >Peter does not claim that 23...Nf6 based on his analysis >with chess programs. > >He did not mention Fritz and I even did not check if Fritz suggested this move >but I am sure that he does not say that a move is a good move only because it >was suggested by a computer. Uri, I refuse to examine what Peter Berger (!) might have thought when he "analysed" (!) that position with the help of FRITZ. And you certainly don't mean it seriously, no? :) Either you cannot read or you read too fast, Uri. Peter said exactly what you denied he said. Read it again. Also Huebner is surely of another calibre than Peter or you, excuse me. Your [Peter and you] 23...Nf6 is IMO NOT better because of the line Huebner gave before: NxN, NxN and then f5 which excludes the black B. Huebner: "White has a won game." That you two can't understand that is no argument. That has something to do with chess experience of a GM. Huebner is the best German GM after the WWII. You two, me included, are almost nothing without the help of computers. But what are computers worth? Oh well, here I mention my older message about Huebner two years ago here in CCC. > >Uri
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