Author: blass uri
Date: 00:15:49 10/16/98
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On October 15, 1998 at 18:14:38, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >On October 15, 1998 at 17:33:53, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On October 15, 1998 at 15:42:03, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >> >>>On October 15, 1998 at 14:29:35, Moritz Berger wrote: >>> >>>>I tried the position with Junior 5 on PII-450 (256 MB RAM, 128 MB hash tables). >>>>I wouldn't trust any computer analysis in this position, though, it's very >>>>complicated even for the best programs on fast hardware ... >>>> >>>>Moritz >>>> >>>>Initial position: >>>>r1b3k1/pp2n1r1/2n1p2Q/3pPpNB/2p2q1P/P7/2P2PP1/R3R1K1 b - h3 0 1 >>>> >>>>Analysis by Junior 5.0: >>>> >>>>20...c3 21.Re3 Bd7 22.Rae1 Qd4 23.Nxe6 Bxe6 24.Qxe6+ Kh7 25.Qf6 >>>> -+ (-1.78) depth: 14 00:00:38 13662kN >>>>20...c3 21.Re3 Nxe5 22.g3 Ng4 23.Qxg7+ Kxg7 24.gxf4 Nxe3 25.fxe3 Ng6 26.Bxg6 >>>>Kxg6 27.Kf2 >>>> ³ (-0.40) depth: 16 00:01:53 41026kN >>>>20...Nd8 21.Re3 Nec6 22.c3 d4 23.g3 Qxg5 24.hxg5 dxe3 25.fxe3 Nxe5 26.Rd1 >>>> µ (-1.32) depth: 16 00:02:18 50099kN >>>>20...Bd7 21.Rad1 c3 22.g3 Qa4 23.Nxe6 Bxe6 24.Qxe6+ Kh7 25.Qd7 Qxh4 26.Qxb7 Rh8 >>>>27.Bf3 f4 >>>> -+ (-1.51) depth: 16 00:03:35 77026kN >>>>20...Qd4 21.Rad1 Qb2 22.Qf6 Nd8 23.Bf7+ Nxf7 24.Qxe7 Bd7 25.Nxe6 Bxe6 26.Qxe6 >>>>Rg4 27.Rxd5 Rxh4 28.Qxf5 >>>> -+ (-1.70) depth: 16 00:04:49 105737kN >>>>20...Qd4 21.Rad1 Qb2 22.Qf6 Nd8 23.Bf7+ Nxf7 24.Qxe7 Bd7 25.Nxe6 Bxe6 26.Qxe6 >>>>Rg4 27.Rxd5 Rxh4 28.Qxf5 >>>> -+ (-1.70) depth: 16 00:04:49 105888kN >>>>20...Qd4 21.Rad1 Qb2 22.Qf6 Nd8 23.Bf7+ Nxf7 24.Qxe7 Bd7 25.Nxe6 Bxe6 26.Qxe6 >>>> -+ (-1.70) depth: 17 00:06:31 143522kN >>>>20...Qd4 21.Rad1 Qb2 22.Qf6 Nd8 23.Bf7+ Nxf7 24.Qxe7 Bd7 25.Nxe6 Bxe6 26.Qxe6 >>>> -+ (-1.70) depth: 17 00:07:51 167586kN >>>>20...Qd4 21.Rad1 Qb2 22.Qf6 Nd8 23.Bf7+ Rxf7 24.Nxf7 Nxf7 25.Qxe7 Nxe5 26.Qg5+ >>>>Kf7 27.Qh5+ Ng6 28.Qh7+ Qg7 29.Qxg7+ Kxg7 >>>> -+ (-1.42) depth: 18 00:13:44 293349kN >>>>20...Bd7 21.Rad1 c3 22.g3 Qa4 23.Nf7 Rxf7 24.Bxf7+ Kxf7 25.Qh7+ Kf8 26.Qh6+ Kg8 >>>> -+ (-1.48) depth: 18 00:17:11 367476kN >>>>20...Bd7 21.Rad1 c3 22.g3 Qa4 23.Nf7 Rxf7 24.Bxf7+ Kxf7 25.Qh7+ Kf8 26.Qh6+ Kg8 >>>> -+ (-1.48) depth: 18 00:20:01 419756kN >>>>20...Bd7 21.Rad1 >>>> µ (-1.18) depth: 19 00:30:13 627583kN >>>>20...Bd7 21.Rad1 >>>> µ (-1.18) depth: 19 00:43:36 903055kN >>>>20...Bd7 21.Rab1 b5 22.Re3 Rf8 23.g3 Qd4 24.Nxe6 Bxe6 25.c3 Qb6 26.Qxe6+ Kh7 >>>>27.Bd1 f4 28.Bc2+ Ng6 29.Bxg6+ Rxg6 >>>> µ (-1.27) depth: 20 01:37:24 2081206kN >>>>20...Bd7 21.Rab1 b5 22.Re3 Rf8 23.g3 Qd4 24.Nxe6 Bxe6 25.c3 Qb6 26.Qxe6+ Kh7 >>>>27.Bd1 f4 28.Bc2+ Ng6 29.Bxg6+ Rxg6 >>>> µ (-1.27) depth: 20 02:00:00 2531581kN >>>> >>>> >>>>if you follow the proposed main variation, at move 22. Junior thinks that white >>>>is still ok: >>>> >>>> >>>>r5k1/p2bn1r1/2n1p2Q/1p1pPpNB/2p2q1P/P7/2P2PP1/1R2R1K1 w - b6 0 1 >>>> >>>>Analysis by Junior 5.0: >>>> >>>>22.Re3 c3 23.g3 Qc4 24.Nxe6 Bxe6 25.Qxe6+ Kh7 26.Qf6 Rag8 >>>> µ (-1.25) depth: 12 00:00:33 13211kN >>>>22.Re3 c3 23.g3 Qc4 24.Nxe6 Bxe6 25.Qxe6+ Kh7 26.Qf6 Rag8 >>>> µ (-1.25) depth: 12 00:00:34 13591kN >>>>22.Re3 Nxe5 23.g3 Ng4 24.Qxg7+ Kxg7 25.gxf4 Nxe3 26.fxe3 Rh8 27.Bf7 Rxh4 28.Bxe6 >>>>Rg4+ 29.Kf2 Bxe6 30.Nxe6+ >>>> µ (-1.22) depth: 14 00:00:47 18455kN >>>>22.Re3 Nxe5 23.g3 Ng4 24.Qxg7+ Kxg7 25.gxf4 Nxe3 26.fxe3 Rh8 27.Bf7 Rxh4 28.Bxe6 >>>>Rg4+ 29.Kf2 Bxe6 30.Nxe6+ >>>> µ (-1.22) depth: 14 00:01:39 36665kN >>>>22.Re3 Rf8 23.c3 d4 24.cxd4 a6 25.Bf7+ Rfxf7 26.Nxf7 Qxd4 27.Ng5 Nxe5 28.Nxe6 >>>> µ (-1.10) depth: 15 00:02:02 45112kN >>>>22.Re3 Rf8 23.c3 d4 24.cxd4 a6 25.Bf7+ Rfxf7 26.Nxf7 Qxd4 27.Ng5 Nxe5 28.Nxe6 >>>> µ (-1.10) depth: 15 00:03:47 80282kN >>>>22.Re3 Nxe5 23.g3 Ng4 24.Qxg7+ Kxg7 25.gxf4 Nxe3 26.fxe3 Rh8 27.Bf7 Kf6 28.h5 >>>>Rf8 29.Bxe6 Bxe6 30.Rxb5 >>>> -+ (-1.43) depth: 16 00:05:39 121470kN >>>>22.Re3 Nxe5 23.g3 Ng4 24.Qxg7+ Kxg7 25.gxf4 Nxe3 26.fxe3 Rh8 27.Bf7 Kf6 28.h5 >>>>Rf8 29.Bxe6 Bxe6 30.Rxb5 >>> >>>Ho dear ! It seems that Junior5 have overlooked 30. Nh7+ and 31.Nxf8 ;) (but >>>Genius5 don't when I followed this line until 27th move ...) >> >>It is a bad idea to follow a long line to decide about the position >>black has better moves in this line( 27...Rxh4) and Junior has no problem to see > >27...Rxh4 is followed by Bxe6 ... with advantage for black after 28...Bc6 29.Nf3 Rh3 30.Nd4 Rxe3 31.Bxf5 Kf6 Uri
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