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Subject: Re: Shredder improvements

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 19:05:10 05/17/03

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On May 17, 2003 at 18:09:38, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On May 17, 2003 at 14:16:23, Peter Stayne wrote:
>
>>Are we getting any closer to the point where, given the same
>>hardware, it's almost impossible to make an engine stronger? Or do we still have
>>a long way to go?
>
>I'm no expert, but I think we haven't even crossed the half-way point yet. Alpha
>beta based programs have been seriously studied for decades, and there is still
>probably room for improvement and new ideas even in that area. If you consider
>the fact that other ideas haven't had the amount of research that alpha-beta has
>had (and it's not even close), then it seems to me that we have only explored
>one hall of a giant mansion, and we haven't thoroughly exhausted the exploration
>of that one hall yet.
>
>There are so many areas of AI that are rarely (if ever) used in computer chess,
>and a lot of them are relatively new. Things like neural networks, genetic
>algorithms, and the like certainly haven't been studied as much as alpha-beta.
>In 50 years, think of what will have been discovered in those areas, and those
>are just some of the more popular new things in AI. There are hundreds or
>thousands of ideas (or maybe more) that are very cutting edge and are only being
>explored by a handful of people.
>
>Think about it. Maybe 99% of the ideas in AI aren't used in chess. As machines
>get faster, and more and more areas of AI become better researched, well...the
>possibilities are endless I think (at least for a few thousand years).

So Shredder 7.04 will look like a very primitive product of unguided human
imagination from almost stone-age resemblence!?



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