Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:36:11 05/20/03
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On May 20, 2003 at 15:18:05, Angelo Ciavarella wrote: >On May 20, 2003 at 14:04:48, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 20, 2003 at 11:40:25, Angelo Ciavarella wrote: >> >>>On May 20, 2003 at 05:14:08, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On May 20, 2003 at 03:14:21, Angelo Ciavarella wrote: >>>> >>>>>The link below says that the correspondence chess champion can calculate better >>>>>than any computer. >>>>> >>>>>www.uschess.org/cc/alexsept02.html >>>> >>>>I do not see that claim. >>>> >>>>By definition computer is faster and can calculate better than any human if >>>>humans only write the right program. >>>> >>>>The only reason that a team of computer and human can do better than a computer >>>>is that programmers failed to write the right program. >>>> >>>>Uri >>>If you read the statement half way down the page by two-time U.S.Correspondence >>>Champion Stephen Jones, he explains why he can beat a computer in correspondence >>>analysis. >> >>I can only say nonsense about the following sentence: >>"You look 10 to 12 moves ahead. The computer's evaluation of the position will >>be based only on four to six moves ahead." >> >>The writer proves that he does not know much about computers becuase my shredder >>can get often 20 plies in some hours and 20 plies are clearly more than 4-6 >>moves ahead. >> >>He also does not claim that he without computer can beat the computer. >>If the claim is that a team of computer+human can be better than a computer then >>I agree with it but I also believe that in lot of cases it is not the case(for >>example if the human only use the computer to check the analysis for tactical >>mistakes) >> >>I also believe that there are full games when a good correspondence player does >>not need to change the moves of the computer because they are simply the best >>moves. >> >>Uri >Steven Busemann,a cc grandmaster, says computers are not much use to a strong cc >player.Go to http://cl-www.dfki.uni-sb.de/~busemann/computers.html for a full >explanation. > >Angelo I do not see where he says it. He says that computer with no help is bad for correspondence game but he does not say that computers do not help strong cc players. Note that my opinion is that a computer with no help with fast hardware can get 2500-2600 ICCF rating. Uri
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