Author: George Tsavdaris
Date: 15:07:35 05/20/03
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On May 20, 2003 at 17:25:54, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >On May 20, 2003 at 17:14:08, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: > >>On May 20, 2003 at 16:50:54, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>> From what I have just read in this forum >>> >>> http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?297309 >>> http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?297327 >>> >>> it does not make sense to test The King 3.23 with different settings. >>> Therefore, I have decided >>> >>> - to stop all my work with this engine >>> - to close the Chessmaster section on our homepage >>> - to never again write something about CM9 and our experience with >>> this great engine. >>> >>> A somewhat disappointed Chessmaster fan ... >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Kurt >> >>I understand you very well. It is dissapointing to see how less human beeings >>are able to learn from each other.I can´t understand the words of Mr Merlino.Why >>it is not possible to know more about TheKIng as Johan Koning itself? You only >>have to see more games of TheKing as Johan de Koning and to look deeper in this >>games.That´s all,chess is chess and statistics are statistics. > >I think that Thomas is right. In a chess program, there is almost an unlimited >number of parameters to be tuned. You can never exclude that a busy tester can >find a reasonable alternative or even an improvement to the author's favorite >settings. > >I can however understand that it may be difficult to convince the author. May be >that Johan is a bit conservative und doesn't want to spoil things. > >Kurt, if I were you and I were convinced that my settings are superior, then I >would go on and try to prove it. Perform tournaments with lots of games where CM >standard and CM-KU are competing. > >Uli > I'm very sorry to hear that from you Mr Utzinger and i hope you will change your decision and keep doing the amazing work you have already done. You found for us the CM9000/8000 Utz12n,Utz12p,SKR settings and many more, you've made endless and great tournaments with chessmaster and i think although it's hard to hear those things, you should not leave all these. You played with Utz12n,Utz12p,SKR ~900 games with each one and they proved to be stronger than default. Even from my own experience i can say clearly, that SKR and Utz12p is much better than default after ~100 games. So how much more games are needed to say that SKR is stronger? 10.000? Anyway you have to know that it does make sense your testing for the King. You gave us great settings and many fun tournaments with CM8000 and we thank you for that!
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