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Subject: Re: The King at Leiden

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 02:47:22 05/21/03

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On May 20, 2003 at 21:32:01, John Merlino wrote:

>On May 20, 2003 at 17:33:14, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>>Johan does know the SKR settings, as he and I discussed them (and several other
>>>settings that had some success in user tournaments). I think it is most accurate
>>>to say that he was not CONVINCED that these settings were better than the
>>>default.
>>
>>Unless this is being extremely diplomatic, it says that he isn't convinced that
>>they aren't better either. I'm sure he has his own testing methods, so why not
>>subject this personality to them? Did he test it at all?
>
>I do not know for certain if he tested these personalities.
>
>>>Johan spends a great deal of time testing his engine, and his testing results in
>>>the settings that are used in the program. Johan then usually will test out his
>>>theories/suspicions in tournaments such as Leiden. Ultimately, it would be silly
>>>to say that somebody else knows The King better than (or even as well as) Johan.
>>
>>Maybe, maybe not. Ed Schroeder has often sent out contests for users to try to
>>improve on his settings, or find settings with an edge in specific areas, and he
>>certainly tested his program enough. This would seem to show that perhaps he
>>doesn't believe it's impossible for a dedicated user to find an improvement.
>>
>>                                    Albert
>>
>>>jm
>
>Kurt's tests, while very thorough, were for a particular time control on
>specific hardware (although I honestly can't remember if more than one CPU type
>was used). Kurt's tests showed very well that, under these specific conditions,
>his settings were as good as or better than any other engine available.
>
>However, I would venture to say that Johan is probably concerned more about "the
>typical Chessmaster user", meaning that he would be very reluctant to grant
>improvement to one type of setting at the expense of another type of setting
>that someone else prefers to use.
>
>Personally, I think it's surprising that Johan's testing methodologies are
>coming into question immediately after he wins a big tournament, simply because
>he decided to use his own settings rather than others that have been shown to be
>successful under certain circumstances. Clearly, he seems to know what he is
>doing, no?

In these tournements, the King uses a "mess up the board" openingbook, wich
could require different "best" settings, when compared to a normal book.

Tony

>
>jm



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