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Subject: Re: Question to Dr. Robert Hyatt

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:43:38 05/21/03

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On May 20, 2003 at 15:22:20, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On May 20, 2003 at 15:06:54, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2003 at 14:05:18, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2003 at 21:43:03, Matthew White wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2003 at 17:18:13, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 18, 2003 at 12:29:33, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 18, 2003 at 09:40:34, Alvaro Jose Povoa Cardoso wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, I was thinking on upgrading my system to an Athlon 64 (not yet released) by
>>>>>>>Christmas 2003.
>>>>>>>Assuming those systems will be available by year end, I was wondering if by then
>>>>>>>you will have a binary of crafty that would run 64 bit instructions and if it
>>>>>>>would run normaly with winboard.
>>>>>>>Also, will it run on the current Windows XP (32 bit)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>>>Alvaro Cardoso
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't be so eager to jump on the athlon 64 bandwagon. Too many things are new
>>>>>>about it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(1) New 64 bit cpu
>>>>>>(2) New supporting chipsets
>>>>>>(3) New 64 bit OS
>>>>>>(4) New hardware drivers
>>>>>>(5) New 64 bit compilers
>>>>>>(6) and more generally: New 64 bit software
>>>>>
>>>>>If you don't like (3), (4), (5), or (6), then just use 32-bit software.
>>>>>
>>>>>Reviews of Opteron running 32-bit software indicate that it performs quite well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Speaking to each point individually:
>>>>>
>>>>>(1) - What's wrong with a new processor? Would you hold off on buying a Pentium
>>>>>5 because it's new? What would you wait for, a Pentium 6 instead? Besides, the
>>>>>Athlon 64/Opteron is based on current Athlons, so it's not 100% new.
>>>>>
>>>>The Pentiums were based on the 486's, but that didn't save them from the "F00F"
>>>>bug. Some people don't mind buying processors with low serial numbers, others
>>>>do. It's a matter of personal preference, I guess.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>I wasn't aware that the Pentium borrowed anything from the 486, and if it did,
>>>it must have been a very small amount.
>>
>>it was an evolution of the '486
>
>Depends on what you mean by evolution. You could also say that the Pentium Pro
>is an evolution of the Pentium. Nothing you posted indicates that the Pentium
>directly borrows anything from the 486.
>
>-Tom


I doubt the pentium borrowed _any_ "silicon" from the '486.  However, it
certainly borrowed the instruction architecture.  :)

It is possible that a few basic instructions have a pretty unique hardware
solution and were borrowed directly, of course...




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