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Subject: Re: CM9k (The King) Termination of my work [my final decision]

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 16:47:47 05/21/03

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On May 21, 2003 at 14:33:40, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

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>English
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>
>After further reflection and one night sleep I have [after consulting
>chessfriend Rolf Bühler] come to the following decision:
>
>1.)
>The section "Chessmaster" on Homepage "Kurt & Rolf Chess":
>http://www.beepworld.de/members39/utzinger
>will again be opened as we do not want to "punish" the computerchess community
>and the Chessmaster fans. This site will however no longer be updated.
>
>2.)
>Chessmaster 9000 or The King 3.23 [in particular CM9_SKR]  may still be
>integrated in our tournaments, but the program is being dealt with like all
>other engines [no special comments].
>
>3.)
>We abstain from creating/testing new CM9-settings.
>
>4.)
>No comments whatsoever will be published about Chessmaster [The King] in the
>future.
>
>5.)
>Final remarks:
>
>From our long experience with the great [and often underestimated] TheKing
>engine we can say the following:
>
>- default parameters may be best as overall setting
>- there are some better settings than default at longer time controls [40'/40
>upwards]
>- strong settings at blitz level are seldom worth testing at longer time
>controls
>- strongest settings at higher time controls are in most cases less reliable at
>blitz level
>- different methods of implementing The King/settings under Fritz-GUI lead to
>other results
>- play at least 300 games [50 games vs 6 engines] to find out if a setting is
>good
>- do not play CM9_X vs CM9_Y to determine strongest CM-setting
>- even slightest amendments of CM9-params may have greatly influence playing
>strength
>- 32 MB hash is enough and perhaps best for The King [anyway not more than 64
>MB]
>- reproduction of moves played during games is often not possible
>- best CM settings for analysis [test positions] may not be best for tournament
>play
>- and just our opinion/feeling: The King plays stronger outside the CM9-GUI
>
>
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>German
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>Nach reiflicher Überlegung und einer Nacht Schlaf, habe ich nach Rücksprache mit
>Schachfreund Rolf Bühler folgenden Entscheid gefällt:
>
>1.)
>Das Menu "Chessmaster" der Homepage <a
>href="http://www.beepworld.de/members39/utzinger" target=_top>Kurt & Rolf
>Chess</a> wird wieder eröffnet. Wir wollen die Schachgemeinschaft und die vielen
>Fans von Chessmaster nicht bestrafen, weil wir die Lust verloren haben.
>
>2.)
>Chessmaster 9000 bzw. The King 3.23 [insbesondere CM9_SKR] wird bei Bedarf
>weiterhin in unsere Turniere integriert, jedoch bezüglich Kommentierung nicht
>mehr speziell erwähnt oder besonders hervorgehoben.
>
>3.)
>Ab sofort verzichten wir darauf, neue CM-settings zu kreieren und zu testen.
>
>4.)
>Über Chessmaster werden wir keine Kommentare [welcher Art auch immer] mehr
>abgeben.
>
>5.)
>Einige abschliessende Bemerkungen:
>
>Aufgrund unserer langen Erfahrungen mit der grossartigen [und oftmals
>unterschätzen] The King engine, können wir das folgende anmerken:
>
>- Einstellung "default" ist u.U. das beste Setting, brauchbar für jede
>Spielstufe
>- es gibt bessere Settings als default für längere Zeitkontrollen [40'/40 und
>aufwärts]
>- starke Settings für Blitz bringen selten dieselben guten Resultate mit höheren
>Bedenkzeiten
>- starke Settings auf höheren Bedenkzeiten sind meistens für Blitz weniger
>geeignet
>- unterschiedliche Methoden der Einbindung von TheKing/Settings bringen nicht
>dieselben Resultate
>- mindestens 300 Partien [50 games vs 6 engines] spielen, um herauszufinden, ob
>Setting gut ist
>- Verzicht auf Matches CM9_X vs CM9_Y, um das beste Setting zu testen
>- selbst geringfügiste Änderungen der Parameter können die Spielweise von The
>King beeinflussen
>- 32 MB hash sind genug und wahrscheinlich am besten für The King [jedoch nie
>mehr als 64 MB]
>- oftmals ist es schwierig, in Partien gespielte Züge zu reproduzieren
>- starke CM9 Settings für die Analyse [Testpositionen] sind u.U. weniger gut für
>das Turnierspiel
>- unsere Meinung/unser Gefühl: The King spielt etwas stärker ausserhalb der
>CM9-GUI


Kurt,

Thank you for all the work you did with Chessmaster and helping  everyone the
pleasure of playing the strongest Chessmaster outside the non-Window standard
UbiSoft GUI and in other professional and appealing GUI's such as Fritz 8,Chess
Partner or Arena.

I have a sense that perhaps something was said or implied to you that your work
and your efforts were unappeciated or perhaps under-appreciated by somebody very
close to the "The King".  Do not let this get you down.  Your un-ending efforts
helped everyone enjoy the strongest "King" in an environment of their own
chosing.  Tonight I will play some games againt "The King" on a full-size" DGT
tournamnet board under the F8 GUI with the "The King" moves spoken to me as it
makes its moves.  I believe this would have not been possible without your
efforts.

best regards,

Michael



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