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Subject: Re: CM9k (The King) Termination of my work [my final decision]

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 09:59:33 05/22/03

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On May 22, 2003 at 03:41:54, José Carlos wrote:

>On May 21, 2003 at 14:33:40, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>*******
>>English
>>*******
>>
>>After further reflection and one night sleep I have [after consulting
>>chessfriend Rolf Bühler] come to the following decision:
>>
>>1.)
>>The section "Chessmaster" on Homepage "Kurt & Rolf Chess":
>>http://www.beepworld.de/members39/utzinger
>>will again be opened as we do not want to "punish" the computerchess community
>>and the Chessmaster fans. This site will however no longer be updated.
>>
>>2.)
>>Chessmaster 9000 or The King 3.23 [in particular CM9_SKR]  may still be
>>integrated in our tournaments, but the program is being dealt with like all
>>other engines [no special comments].
>>
>>3.)
>>We abstain from creating/testing new CM9-settings.
>>
>>4.)
>>No comments whatsoever will be published about Chessmaster [The King] in the
>>future.
>>
>>5.)
>>Final remarks:
>>
>>From our long experience with the great [and often underestimated] TheKing
>>engine we can say the following:
>>
>>- default parameters may be best as overall setting
>>- there are some better settings than default at longer time controls [40'/40
>>upwards]
>>- strong settings at blitz level are seldom worth testing at longer time
>>controls
>>- strongest settings at higher time controls are in most cases less reliable at
>>blitz level
>>- different methods of implementing The King/settings under Fritz-GUI lead to
>>other results
>>- play at least 300 games [50 games vs 6 engines] to find out if a setting is
>>good
>>- do not play CM9_X vs CM9_Y to determine strongest CM-setting
>>- even slightest amendments of CM9-params may have greatly influence playing
>>strength
>>- 32 MB hash is enough and perhaps best for The King [anyway not more than 64
>>MB]
>>- reproduction of moves played during games is often not possible
>>- best CM settings for analysis [test positions] may not be best for tournament
>>play
>>- and just our opinion/feeling: The King plays stronger outside the CM9-GUI
>
>
>
>  I'm not sure what all this story is about but, I can guess:
>
>    - personality setting is interesting for the users, but more interesting for
>the author, as users can find new and stronger settings without much effort from
>the author
>    - Johan seems to be intelligent enough to succeed in winning tournaments
>    - in a short live tournament surprise is very important, I don't expect
>_any_ author to use default settings nor default book for such an event
>    - if Johan would decide to use your settings, he'd probably not say a word
>about it
>    - if he though your settings are best, he'd probably want to confuse the
>competence saying default settings are best
>    ...
>
>  José C.
Would this be typical programmer and chess related?

Everyone is complaining about Bill Gates and then eventualy starts doing the
same thing.
Rather then to avoid it will happen again and for sure not in your
neighbourhood.

Marc



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