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Subject: Re: Correspondence chess

Author: Angelo Ciavarella

Date: 01:25:01 05/23/03

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On May 22, 2003 at 13:59:28, Angelo Ciavarella wrote:

>On May 20, 2003 at 17:51:30, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2003 at 17:18:22, Robin Smith wrote:
>>
>>>On May 20, 2003 at 15:36:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>Note that my opinion is that a computer with no help with fast hardware can get
>>>>2500-2600 ICCF rating.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Uri,
>>>
>>>A rating of 2600 would put that player in the top 100 in the world. If it were
>>>that easy there would be MANY more 2600 players than there actually are.
>>
>>I think that one of the problem is that a lot of CC players play in many
>>tournaments so they cannot give their computer enough time for a game.
>>
>>I think that if Shredder7.04 is used with 24 hours per move on
>>the fastest hardware that it can use then it may get at least 2500 and maybe
>>even 2600.
>>
>>I know that there is a player in Israel with ICCF rating above 2500 (and his
>>rating does not go down) that I beated 2.5-.5 in the different stages of the
>>Israeli final and I felt during the games that I beated him because my computer
>>simply outsearched his computer.
>>
>>He also did mistakes that I considered them as typical computer mistakes during
>>the games.
>>
>>Maybe the secret is to know to play in the right correspondence tournament to
>>get the big rating.
>>
>>For example it is possible that people who decide to play by mail can get bigger
>>ICCF rating than people who decide to play by email because there is a bigger
>>chance that players who use mail for their games do not have computers.
>>
>>Uri
>Dear Uri,
>One final note about CC and I won't bother you any more.In response to my
>question as to whether the champion cc players can outperform computers, FM Tom
>Brownscombe of the U.S Chess Federation answered as follows:Most people believe
>that the world's best CC players are better at CC than the current best
>computers.However,most top level analysis is done by  master level players
>working with a computer.
>Angelo



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