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Subject: Re: The "hard testpositions" were posted May 2001

Author: Matthew White

Date: 22:06:10 05/24/03

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On May 24, 2003 at 19:56:16, Jonathan Lee wrote:

>On May 24, 2003 at 19:43:29, Matthew White wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 2003 at 18:46:53, Pierre Chevalier wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 2003 at 18:12:48, Matthew White wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>It's time to see chess engines 2 years later can understand these testpostitions
>>>>>>especially the 10 hardest ones.
>>>>>>By looking at 170,212 post you will see the results of 2 years ago.
>>>
>>>>It took me a while to find it...
>>>>http://fortuna.iasi.rdsnet.ro/ccc/ccc.php?art_id=168519
>>>These positions are all openings situations--hardly the area of expertise
>>>for a computer.  Would you criticise a computer that could not solve
>>>these perfectly?  This material should all be book material.
>>From what I could see, most of these are opening "trap"-type situations. Yes,
>>they occur in the opening, but many of these have relatively shallow reasons for
>>the positional decision. The only one that has not been solved by a computer
>>(according to the test, and my own experimentation) in 2 minutes is #22, which
>>is in Shredder's book (and I would assume others too).
>>
>>Matt
>http://fortuna.iasi.rdsnet.ro/ccc/ccc.php?art_id=170212
>Jonathan
Here's how long it took Fritz 8 to find a4 on a 1.3 GHz Athlon:
New game
r3kb1r/pp1b1ppp/1q2pn2/n2p4/3P1B2/2PB1N2/PPQ2PPP/RN2K2R w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 8:

1.0-0 Nc4 2.b3
  ±  (0.73)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
1.Nbd2 Bd6 2.Bxd6 Qxd6
  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
1.Ne5 Bd6 2.Nxd7 Kxd7 3.Bxd6 Qxd6
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00
1.Nbd2 Bb5 2.Bxb5+ Qxb5 3.0-0-0 Be7
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00
  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  7kN
1.0-0 Bb5 2.Bxb5+ Qxb5 3.Nbd2 Be7 4.b4 Nc6 5.Bc7 Rc8 6.a4 Nxb4 7.cxb4 Qd7 8.Rfc1
Bd8 9.Qc5 Bxc7 10.Qxa7
  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  12kN
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 14/41   00:35:28  234801kN
1.a4 Nc6 2.Nbd2 Nh5 3.Be5 Be7 4.Bxh7 Nxe5 5.Nxe5 Nf4 6.g3 g6 7.gxf4 Rxh7 8.Nxd7
Kxd7 9.a5
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 14/41   01:08:48  449132kN
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 15/42   03:52:07  1449457kN

(White, . 24.05.2003)



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