Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:03:57 05/27/03
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On May 26, 2003 at 19:51:29, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 26, 2003 at 19:20:09, Albert Silver wrote: > >>On May 26, 2003 at 17:04:49, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On May 26, 2003 at 16:06:40, Joachim Rang wrote: >>> >>>>Uri you missed the point. Amazing is, that Shredder 7.0 Uci leads the 450 Mhz >>>>clas with 49 (!) points. That's pretty much isn't it? Of course there are not >>>>very many games played so far. >>>> >>>>regards >>>>Joachim >>> >>>Junior7 earned less than 60 elo from the A1200 so if we assume that shredderUCI >>>earn the same then it is hardly number 1 in A1200 >>> >>>I agree that the difference is more than 60 elo in most of the cases but still >>>it is nothing to consider as amazing. >>> >>>I think that comparing with Fritz7 and deep fritz7 may be misleading because it >>>is possible that they were lucky with 1200 mhz and unlucky with 450 mhz. >>> >>>Based on this result I expect shredder7UCI to be slightly better than >>>shredder7(chessbase) >>> >>>Nothing amazing when we consider the fact that the book of shredder7 chessbase >>>includes inferior lines. >>> >>>Uri >> >>I think Joachim is right, and you are missing the point. I care very little >>about whether it is the UCI version or the Chessbase version. The fact is that >>it is performing a good 50 points stronger (for the moment) than the next best >>on the same hardware. That's very impressive. It is doing far better than its >>predecessor, a great program in its own right, whereas Fritz 8 only managed 1 >>elo point more in performance. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think >>that is a remarkable software improvement when improvements seem to be getting >>harder and harder at the top. >> >> Albert > >I agree that there is a remarkable software improvement. >I only did not find it amazing. > >Uri Here is some data about the improvement from 450 mhz to 1200 mhz based on the results if I did not do a calculation error Tiger15 58 Deep Fritz7 107 GambitTiger2 71 Junior7 57 Fritz7 110 chesstiger14 87 shredder5.32 55 Hiarcs8 95 Rebel Century 106 Gandalf5 104 Gandalf4.32h 132 Crafty18.12 134 You can see that Fritz simply have problems with the 450 mhz relative to most of the programs. The only competition for Shredder in 1200 mhz is Fritz and we can expect shredder to lead with big gap in 450 mhz when this program is out of competition. Uri
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