Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 13:27:42 05/27/03
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On May 27, 2003 at 03:03:57, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 26, 2003 at 19:51:29, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 26, 2003 at 19:20:09, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On May 26, 2003 at 17:04:49, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On May 26, 2003 at 16:06:40, Joachim Rang wrote: >>>> >>>>>Uri you missed the point. Amazing is, that Shredder 7.0 Uci leads the 450 Mhz >>>>>clas with 49 (!) points. That's pretty much isn't it? Of course there are not >>>>>very many games played so far. >>>>> >>>>>regards >>>>>Joachim >>>> >>>>Junior7 earned less than 60 elo from the A1200 so if we assume that shredderUCI >>>>earn the same then it is hardly number 1 in A1200 >>>> >>>>I agree that the difference is more than 60 elo in most of the cases but still >>>>it is nothing to consider as amazing. >>>> >>>>I think that comparing with Fritz7 and deep fritz7 may be misleading because it >>>>is possible that they were lucky with 1200 mhz and unlucky with 450 mhz. >>>> >>>>Based on this result I expect shredder7UCI to be slightly better than >>>>shredder7(chessbase) >>>> >>>>Nothing amazing when we consider the fact that the book of shredder7 chessbase >>>>includes inferior lines. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I think Joachim is right, and you are missing the point. I care very little >>>about whether it is the UCI version or the Chessbase version. The fact is that >>>it is performing a good 50 points stronger (for the moment) than the next best >>>on the same hardware. That's very impressive. It is doing far better than its >>>predecessor, a great program in its own right, whereas Fritz 8 only managed 1 >>>elo point more in performance. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think >>>that is a remarkable software improvement when improvements seem to be getting >>>harder and harder at the top. >>> >>> Albert >> >>I agree that there is a remarkable software improvement. >>I only did not find it amazing. >> >>Uri > >Here is some data about the improvement from 450 mhz to 1200 mhz based on the >results if I did not do a calculation error > >Tiger15 58 >Deep Fritz7 107 >GambitTiger2 71 >Junior7 57 >Fritz7 110 >chesstiger14 87 >shredder5.32 55 >Hiarcs8 95 >Rebel Century 106 >Gandalf5 104 >Gandalf4.32h 132 >Crafty18.12 134 > > >You can see that Fritz simply have problems with the 450 mhz relative to most of >the programs. > >The only competition for Shredder in 1200 mhz is Fritz and we can expect >shredder to lead with big gap in 450 mhz when this program is out of >competition. > >Uri This is an intersting statistic. One gets invited to speculate about the reasons. Unfortunately I have no clue :-(
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