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Subject: Re: Ply Results

Author: William H Rogers

Date: 14:24:56 05/28/03

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On May 28, 2003 at 17:07:23, Andreas Herrmann wrote:

>On May 28, 2003 at 16:25:54, William H Rogers wrote:
>
>>I'll give you only one or two examples.
>>Initially there are 20 possible moves for white and assuming that the Kings pawn
>>makes the first move then there are 20 possible moves for black.
>>That equals 20*20=400 moves for a two ply search.
>>Continuing on with the same opening moves now there are 29 possible moves for
>>white once again, that equals 400 * 29 = 11,600 moves for three plys.
>>Then numbers grow from that point up. Set up a board and try it yourself.
>>His statement is that at two plys there are a total of 420 moves. He is getting
>>confused by adding the original 20 to the new 400 possible moves that already
>>include the original 20, and he carries this flawed logic throughoput his
>>equations. It is a simple matter of doing the math...
>>I hope this helps to see the errors of his ways. In all other respects his page
>>looks real good, and I am sure that some people will benifit from it.
>>Bill
>
>There is nothing wrong. Please read his description. If you count only the
>frontier nodes, than you got the perft value. If you add all moves from ply 1 to
>n then you got the total moves count.
>And his perft values are verified by a lot of engines, which supports the perft
>command. You can verify this for excample with Crafty, Yace, Gaviota, Pepito and
>a lot of other engines.
>
>Andreas
 Then I don't understand because 20 * 20 = 400 not 420 as he brings the totals
to the right of his boxes. The original 20 are included in the 400. There must
be more than what I could figure out because that is the only things that makes
sense to me.
Bill



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