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Subject: Re: A tough testposition ...... Rxe2! (S7.04)

Author: Matthew White

Date: 14:44:10 05/28/03

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On May 28, 2003 at 16:38:44, Ernst Walet wrote:

>On May 27, 2003 at 22:39:22, Matthew White wrote:
>
>>On May 27, 2003 at 03:05:36, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>>
>>>On May 26, 2003 at 17:46:55, bobby palacios wrote:
>>>
>>>>[d] 4rk2/3R4/p4q2/2r2p1Q/8/2p5/P1RnBK1P/8 b - - 0 43
>>>>
>>>>Taken from Nejmet 3.06 vs List 5.04 (game in 150), p4 2.47 ghz.
>>>>..Ne4 also wins, but ..Rxe2! is more convincing.
>>>
>>>Shredder 7.04 A@2320MHz, 512 MB Hash, 8 min 45 sec
>>>
>>>Engine: Shredder 7.04
>>>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>>>  8/27	 0:01 	+2.14 	1...Ne4+ 2.Kf1 f4 3.Qh7 Nd2+ 4.Rdxd2 cxd2 5.Rxc5 Qa1+ 6.Bd1
>>>Qxd1+ 7.Kg2 (563.814) 433.0
>>>  9/29	 0:02 	+2.39++	1...Ne4+ 2.Kf1 f4 3.Qh7 Nd2+ 4.Rdxd2 cxd2 5.Rxd2 f3 6.Kf2
>>>fxe2+ 7.Kg2 e1Q 8.Qh8+ Qxh8 (1.105.893) 445.3
>>>  9/29	 0:03 	+2.89++	1...Ne4+ 2.Kf1 f4 3.Qh7 Nd2+ 4.Rdxd2 cxd2 5.Rxd2 f3 6.Kf2
>>>fxe2+ 7.Kg2 e1Q 8.Qh8+ Qxh8 (1.553.913) 452.3
>>>  9/31	 0:08 	+3.01 	1...Ne4+ 2.Kf1 f4 3.Qf3 Rg5 4.Bc4 Nd2+ 5.Rcxd2 cxd2 6.Rxd2
>>>Re3 7.Qa8+ Kg7 8.Rd7+ Kh6 9.Qxa6 (3.863.503) 432.4
>>> 10/35	 0:16 	+3.26++	1...Ne4+ 2.Kf1 f4 3.Qf3 Qh4 4.Rd4 Rce5 5.h3 Qg5 6.Rxc3
>>>Ng3+ 7.Ke1 Nxe2 8.Re4 Nxc3 9.Qxf4+ Qxf4 (6.776.290) 423.4
>>> 10/35	 0:19 	+3.76++	1...Ne4+ 2.Kf1 f4 3.Qf3 Qh4 4.Rd4 Rce5 5.h3 Qf6 6.Ke1 R5e7
>>>7.Rxc3 Qxd4 (8.174.011) 422.2
>>> 10/35	 0:24 	+3.76 	1...Ne4+ 2.Kg2 f4 3.Rd5 Rxd5 4.Qxd5 f3+ 5.Bxf3 Qg6+ 6.Kf1
>>>Ng3+ 7.hxg3 Qxg3 8.Qf5+ Kg8 9.Rc1 Re1+ 10.Rxe1 Qxe1+ 11.Kxe1 (10.709.460) 428.4
>>> 11/37	 0:42 	+3.52 	1...Ne4+ 2.Kg2 f4 3.Rd5 Rxd5 4.Qxd5 Qg6+ 5.Kf1 Nd2+ 6.Rxd2
>>>cxd2 7.Qxd2 Qe4 8.Kf2 Kg8 9.Bxa6 Qe1+ 10.Qxe1 (17.970.215) 424.4
>>> 12/40	 1:58 	+3.76 	1...Ne4+ 2.Kg2 f4 3.Rd5 Rxd5 4.Qxd5 Re5 5.Qa8+ Kg7 6.Qb7+
>>>Kh6 7.Qd7 Rg5+ 8.Kf3 Qe5 9.Bxa6 Nd2+ (50.835.596) 430.1
>>> 13/42	 4:43 	+4.01++	1...Ne4+ 2.Kg2 f4 3.Rd5 Rxd5 4.Qxd5 Re5 5.Qa8+ Kg7 6.Qb7+
>>>Kh6 7.Qd7 Rg5+ 8.Kf3 Qe5 9.Bxa6 Nd2+ (121.599.367) 428.6
>>> 13/42	 7:35 	+4.01 	1...Ne4+ 2.Kf1 f4 3.Qf3 Qh4 4.Rd4 Rce5 5.Rxe4 Rxe4 6.Qxc3
>>>R4e7 7.h3 a5 8.Bg4 Re1+ 9.Kg2 f3+ 10.Bxf3 Qxh3+ 11.Kxh3 (196.384.133) 430.9
>>> 13/42	 8:45 	+4.02++	1...Rxe2+ 2.Qxe2 Rc4 3.Rcxd2 Rf4+ 4.Ke1 cxd2+ 5.Kxd2 Qb2+
>>>6.Ke1 Re4 7.Rd8+ Ke7 8.Kf1 Rxe2 9.Kg1 (228.691.459) 434.8
>>> 13/42	 9:41 	+4.37++	1...Rxe2+ 2.Qxe2 Rc4 3.Rcxd2 Rf4+ 4.Ke1 cxd2+ 5.Kxd2 Qb2+
>>>6.Ke1 Re4 7.Rd8+ Ke7 8.Kf1 Rxe2 9.Kg1 Kxd8 10.a4 Rxh2 (256.221.116) 440.7
>>>best move: Re8xe2 time: 10:27.182 min  n/s: 444.799  CPU 98.9%  nodes:
>>>278.970.500
>>Shredder 7.04 UCI on a 2x2.40 P4 Xeon w/HT enabled - 4 threads(I used the Arena
>>GUI, just for grins):
>>
>>Shredder 7.04  UCI 88 MB:
>>D1-  00:00  -1.08   Re8xe2 Kf2xe2
>>D1  00:00  -1.62   Re8xe2 Qh5xe2
>>D1+  00:00  1.16   Qf6e6
>>D1  00:00  1.24   Qf6e6
>>D2-  00:00  0.03   Qf6e6 Rd7xd2 c3xd2 Rc2xc5 Qe6xa2
>>D2  00:00  0.03   Qf6e6 Qh5h6 Qe6xh6
>>D2+  00:00  0.04   Rc5e5 Qh5h8 Qf6xh8 Be2xa6
>>D2+  00:00  0.75   Rc5e5 Be2c4
>>D2  00:00  1.58   Rc5e5 Be2d3
>>D3+  00:00  1.83   Rc5e5 Qh5h8 Qf6xh8 Rd7f7 Kf8xf7
>>D3  00:00  1.95   Rc5e5 Be2d3 Re5e1 Qh5xf5
>>D4-  00:00  1.70   Rc5e5 Rd7f7 Kf8g8 Rf7xf6 Re5xe2 Qh5xe2
>>D4-  00:00  1.20   Rc5e5 Rd7f7 Kf8g8 Rf7xf6 Re5xe2 Qh5xe2 Re8xe2 Kf2xe2
>>D4  00:00  -0.04   Rc5e5 Rd7f7 Qf6xf7 Qh5h8 Qf7g8 Qh8f6 Qg8f7 Qf6h8 Qf7g8 Qh8f6
>>Qg8f7 Qf6h8 Qf7g8
>>D4+  00:00  0.32   Nd2e4 Kf2g2 Ne4g3 Qh5f3 Ng3xe2 Rc2xe2 Re8xe2 Qf3xe2
>>D4+  00:00  0.67   Nd2e4 Kf2g1 f5f4 Qh5h8 Qf6xh8 Rd7f7 Kf8xf7
>>D4  00:00  1.15   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 Rc5e5 Kf1g1 Ne4d2
>>D5+  00:00  1.40   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 Rc5e5 Rc2xc3 Ne4xc3 Qh5h8 Qf6xh8
>>D5  00:00  1.40   Nd2e4 Kf2g1 f5f4 Qh5h7 Qf6g7 Rd7xg7 Rc5g5 Rg7xg5
>>D5+  00:00  1.41   Rc5c8 Rd7f7 Qf6xf7 Qh5h8 Kf8e7 Qh8e5 Qf7e6 Qe5f6 Ke7xf6
>>D5+  00:00  1.76   Rc5c8 Rd7f7 Qf6xf7 Qh5h8 Kf8e7 Qh8e5 Qf7e6 Qe5f6 Ke7xf6
>>D5  00:00  1.96   Rc5c8 Rd7d3 Qf6b6 Kf2g2 Qb6b7 Kg2f2 Nd2e4 Kf2f1 Qb7b1 Be2d1
>>D6  00:00  1.56   Rc5c8 Rd7d5 Kf8g8 Rd5xf5 Qf6d4 Kf2g3 Qd4e3 Be2f3 Nd2xf3 Rf5xf3
>>D6+  00:00  1.57   Nd2e4 Kf2e1 Rc5e5 Rc2xc3 Ne4xc3 Qh5h8 Qf6xh8
>>D6+  00:00  1.92   Nd2e4 Kf2e1 Rc5e5 Rc2xc3 Ne4xc3 Qh5h8 Qf6xh8
>>D6  00:00  1.92   Nd2e4 Kf2e1 f5f4 Qh5h3 Kf8g8
>>D7  00:00  2.16   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 f5f4 Qh5f3 Qf6h4 Qf3xc3 Rc5xc3 Rd7f7 Kf8xf7
>>D8  00:01  2.14   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 f5f4 Qh5h7 Ne4d2 Rd7xd2 c3xd2 Rc2xc5 Qf6a1 Be2d1
>>Qa1xd1 Kf1g2
>>D9+  00:02  2.39   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 f5f4 Qh5h7 Ne4d2 Rd7xd2 c3xd2 Rc2xd2 f4f3 Rd2d7
>>Re8xe2 Qh7h8 Qf6xh8
>>D9+  00:02  2.89   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 f5f4 Qh5h7 Ne4d2 Rd7xd2 c3xd2 Rc2xd2 f4f3 Rd2d7
>>Re8xe2 Qh7h8 Qf6xh8
>>D9  00:05  3.18   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 f5f4 Qh5f3 Rc5e5 Rd7d4 Qf6h6 Kf1g1 Qh6g6 Kg1h1
>>Ne4g3 h2xg3 Qg6h7 Kh1g1 Qh7xc2 Rd4xf4 Kf8g8
>>D10  00:08  3.18   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 f5f4 Qh5f3 Rc5e5 Rc2xc3 Ne4xc3 Qf3xc3 Qf6e6 Qc3a3
>>Kf8g8
>>D11+  00:16  3.43   Nd2e4 Kf2f1 f5f4 Qh5f3 Qf6h4 Rd7d4 Rc5e5 Kf1g1 Re5g5 Qf3g3
>>f4xg3 Rc2xc3 Ne4xc3
>>D11  00:33  3.52   Nd2e4 Kf2g2 f5f4 Rd7d5 Rc5xd5 Qh5xd5 Qf6g6 Kg2f1 Ne4d2 Rc2xd2
>>c3xd2 Qd5xd2 Qg6e4 Kf1f2 a6a5
>>D12  01:08  3.56   Nd2e4 Kf2g2 f5f4 Rd7d5 Rc5xd5 Qh5xd5 Re8e5 Qd5a8 Kf8g7 Qa8c8
>>Re5g5 Kg2f3 Ne4d2 Rc2xd2 c3xd2 Qc8d7 Kg7f8 Qd7c8 Kf8e7 Qc8c7 Ke7e8 Qc7c8 Qf6d8
>>Qc8xd8
>>D12+  01:59  3.57   Re8xe2 Qh5xe2 Rc5c4 Rd7d3 Rc4f4 Kf2e1 Qf6h4 Qe2f2 Rf4xf2
>>Rd3g3
>>D12+  01:59  3.92   Re8xe2 Qh5xe2 Rc5c4 Rd7d3 Rc4f4 Kf2e1 Qf6h4 Qe2f2 Rf4xf2
>>Rd3g3 Qh4xh2 Rg3f3 Nd2xf3 Ke1d1 Rf2xc2
>>D12  02:27  4.92   Re8xe2 Qh5xe2 Rc5c4 Rd7d3 Rc4f4 Kf2e1 Qf6h4 Ke1d1 Rf4f1
>>Qe2xf1 Nd2xf1 Rd3xc3 Qh4e4 Kd1c1 Qe4f4 Kc1b2 Qf4d4
>
>
>I cannot reproduce 12 ply with 88MB hash, no idea why.....
>
>Ernst.
Weird. Are you using 4 threads as well?

Matt



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