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Subject: Re: SSDF(Shredder 7.04 Classic - Fritz 8)A1200, 2-0, now 9-6

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 07:34:56 05/29/03

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On May 29, 2003 at 08:03:31, Mark Young wrote:

>On May 29, 2003 at 05:06:49, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>I am starting to believe that a lot of the wins of Shredder are do to the good
>>learning and also the extremely optimized Opening Book of Shredder. The only
>>fair way to test the strength of any engine would be if the learning files of
>>the programs being tested are set to zero and to reverse the Opening books after
>>20 games are played between engines. For instance after this match reach 20
>>games the Shredder7.ctg should be applied to Fritz 8, and Fritz8.ctg should be
>>assigned to Shredder 7.04.
>>
>>Pichard.
>
>
>I started a 100 game match a few days ago with Fritz 8 one of many test I have
>run with Shredder 7....both programs playing with the same book and playing in
>chessbase. Book learning is the same, opening book is the same,hash tables are
>the same, Shredder is still winning. IMO in testing Shredder 7, Shredder is the
>better program, and wins because of that fact alone.
>
>
>1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
>1   Shredder 7.04
>½½1½11011001????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> 7.5/12
>2   Fritz 8
>½½0½00100110????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> 4.5/12

12 games is only 12% of the match I would not make any judgement until at least
you have reached 50%. The way I look at your scoresheet is that Shredder has
only won 3 more games with 88 more games to play.

Jorge



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