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Subject: Re: SSDF(Shredder 7.04 Classic - Fritz 8)A1200, 2-0, now 9-6

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 07:54:33 05/29/03

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On May 29, 2003 at 10:51:24, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On May 29, 2003 at 10:17:30, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>
>>On May 29, 2003 at 05:06:49, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>I am starting to believe that a lot of the wins of Shredder are do to the good
>>>learning and also the extremely optimized Opening Book of Shredder. The only
>>>fair way to test the strength of any engine would be if the learning files of
>>>the programs being tested are set to zero and to reverse the Opening books after
>>>20 games are played between engines. For instance after this match reach 20
>>>games the Shredder7.ctg should be applied to Fritz 8, and Fritz8.ctg should be
>>>assigned to Shredder 7.04.
>>>
>>>Pichard.
>>
>>we are running Shredder 7.04 under the classical GUI as an UCI engine, using the
>>shredder7.bkt book.
>>
>>Tony
>
>
>In that case after the match reach 20 games it is only fair to disable the books
>of both programs for the remaining of the match. Then we can compare if the
>opening books is a factor and NOT the evaluation of the engines. This kind of
>test will provide us with a lot of valuable data that we can use for comparison
>such as: we can compare the margin of games that one program lose from playing
>without a Killer book like shredder7.bkt or shrdder7.ctg and at the same time,
>how effective the learning feature really is if the learning files of both
>programs are set to zero or are disabled for the second half of the match.
>
>Pichard

Openingbook and position learing is part of the program. Not that I think the
pos. learning counts for much though.

Torstein



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