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Subject: Re: No Question CM9 SKR Is Superior to Default

Author: Dana Turnmire

Date: 10:39:44 05/30/03

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On May 30, 2003 at 00:28:33, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On May 29, 2003 at 22:42:59, Dana Turnmire wrote:
>
>>Kurt Utzinger played the matches in the Fritz7-/Hiarcs8 GUI with no book
>>learning.  Isn't this unfair to the programs that have book learning?  It is
>>really impressive that CM9 SKR didn't lose a single match but what would the
>>results be if the opponents were allowed to use their learning features?  Would
>>there a be a drastically different score?  Is the learning part of a program
>>overrated?  Just Wondering.
>>
>>Doesn't SSDF allow each program to use all of its features?  It seems to be the
>>only fair way of testing different programs.
>
>    CM9 SKR lost the match vs Shredder 7.04 below again the list:
>
>TK 3.23 SKR	Program	      Games	TheKing	Opp	Score	Time
>TK 3.23 SKR	Aristarch 4.4	50	35.5	14.5	71%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Chess Tiger 14	30	16.5	13.5	55%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Chess Tiger 14	20	10	10	50%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Chess Tiger 15	50	26.5	23.5	53%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Chess Tiger 15	50	25	25	50%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Crafty 18.15	50	36	14	72%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Deep Fritz 7	50	25	25	50%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Fritz 8	      50	25.5	24.5	51%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Gambit Tiger2 ag	50	30	20	60%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Gandalf 4.32	50	33	17	66%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Hiarcs 8	      50	31.5	18.5	63%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	List 504	      50	33	17	66%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Junior 7	      50	37	13	74%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Nimzo 7.32	      50	33	17	66%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Ruffian 1.0.1	50	32.5	17.5	65%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Shredder 7	      50	26	24	52%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Shredder 7.04	50	24.5	25.5	49%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	SOS.3 for Arena	50	36	14	72%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Yace 0.99.56	50	38	12	76%	40'/40
>TK 3.23 SKR	Total	            900	554.5	345.5	62%	40'/40
>
>    Kurt

Hi Kurt.  I guess I was looking a an older list.  I must say that the CM9 SKR
settings are much stronger from the testing I have been doing with Genius 7.  I
conducted a ten game test at game/90 a while back between Genius 7 and CM9
default personality and the result was a close win for Chessmaster.  I don't
remember exactly but it seems like the results were 5W 3L 3D for Chessmaster.  I
am now playing a match between CM9 SKR and Genius 7 at game/90 and so far it is
a blowout for CM9 SKR with only one draw so far.  I believe your testing with
the different settings is appreciated by many.



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