Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 08:12:47 05/31/03
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On May 31, 2003 at 10:16:21, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On May 31, 2003 at 04:13:54, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>I am glad that SSDF decited to test Shredder 7.04 under UCI gui. >> >>The reason is that this program may be the first one to cross the 1800 Elo >>barrier on the SSDF list. >> >>Some time ago I stated that 7.04 was about 20 points stronger that 7.0, but this >>was based looking some game of a previous version. In reality, and testing made >>by many chess funs, gives a little more: >>betwen 22 to 30 points. >> >>So, considering that the UCI gui with tournament book selection should give at >>least 15 points more, it possible to get a rating on a K7 1200 of 2805 to 2810 >>Elo points. >> >>We'll see if these considerations will be confirmed. >> >>About the SSDF not willing to test CM9000 I think people that do not know SSDF >>long enough like me, are saing unfair things on them. >> >>First of all they do this as a hobby and because they love computer chess. To >>claim that their are sponsored by ChessBase is so “non sense” and does not need >>any reply. >> >>What a programmer should do to have its program tested is to send them 3 copies >>of the program with clear instructions for settings and how to run it. >>Also that program MUST include the autoplayer as it would take TOO MANY human >>resources to test it in the normal way, like when the autoplayer was not >>available. >> >>The point is that if they have TO USE ALL THEIR TESTERS to test a program in >>the “old” way, this would probably not be acceptable to them as other >>programmers would complain. >> >>I do not know how many testers they have now because the latest contacts I had >>with them were about 10 year ago. >> >>I personally DO NOT and WILL NOT BUY or run ANY CHESS PROGRAM, even if 4000 Elo >>strong if does not have the autoplayer. > >I agree with you, I bought all the previous version of CM from CM2100 back in >1989 to CM 8000. But since they never heard our request to add an autoplayer I >decided to not buy any more CM programs. >> >>I also believe that using a different book for running a program is no sense as >>the opening book is part of the program. >> >>It is like to drive a Ferrari with another engine. It is not the same and to me >>means nothing. > >I have to congratulate you for making such an excellent Opening book which of >course is part of the program. Just to give you an idea of how much your Opening >book constribute to the high SSDF Elo of Shredder being on first place, I >decided to test Shredder 7 vs Friz 8.008 both without opening Books and Fritz >after 12 games at G/60 is leading by two points so far W6 D2 L4. > >Jorge Hi, thank you, but I think (hope) I can make a better book for the next Shredder. I am never satisfied with my books and try to improve them all the time.I would like to see Shredder score 100%, but we have not been able to do it so far:-)) I like joking! Ciao Sandro > >>I know some people will not agree, but even if I respect them and their >>opinions I have my own opinion which I stated above. >> >>Ciao >>Sandro
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