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Subject: Re: Mate in 4...... End Game Study..

Author: Thomas McBurney

Date: 21:35:44 06/01/03

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On June 01, 2003 at 12:39:34, Art Basham wrote:

>Some engines (such as Sjeng 12.10) have trouble finding
>1. Kd6...!
>
>[D]7k/1p3p2/4pNpB/1b2K3/3p4/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>
>I see it takes my WChess 10 ply and 30 sec. to find it,
>and Rebel 12 takes 11 ply and 46 sec. to find it....etc.
>
>This is also a good test for table top machines and portables...
>My old TurboStar432 takes about 9 minutes to find it!
>
>Novag Scorpio takes 7.8 sec. to find it...etc.

Kanguruh 1.5 finds it in 5.4 seconds on an Athlon 650.  Not bad for a slow piece
of shit written in BASIC. :) 74,000 NPS

  1  31998      16          17  e5f4 d4d3
  2   -266      17          90  e5f4 b5d3
  2   -266      17         141  e5d4 b7b6
  3    -88      18         290  e5d4 b7b6 d4e5
  4   -130      22        1735  e5d4 b5c6 d4c3 b7b5
  5   -123      29        4619  e5d4 b5c6 d4c3 e6e5 h6e3
  6   -128      96       34085  e5d4 b5c6 d4c4 e6e5 h6e3 h8g7
  7   -126     263      124417  e5d4 b5c6 h6g5 h8g7 d4d3 b7b5 f6e4
  7   -126     461      262591  e5d6 b5c6 d6e7 d4d3 e7f8 b7b5 h6g7 h8g7
  8  31992     540      400385  e5d6 b5c6 d6e7 d4d3 e7f8 b7b5 h6g7 h8g7


Now for my my other chess program, Deep BASIC, an ultra slow 16 bit chess
program written in QB45.  Finds it in a little over 4 minutes processing a
massive 4,000 nps on my Athlon 650.

MOVE     TIME    SCORE DEPTH LINE

  1.  ...

  1.       0s    -0.96 ( 2) E5D4 B5A6
  1.       0s    -1.00 ( 2) E5D4 B5C6
  1.       0s    -1.01 ( 2) E5D4 B7B6
  1.       0s    -4.03 ( 3) E5D4 B7B6 F6E8
  1.       0s    -1.06 ( 3) E5D4 B7B6 F6G4
  1.       0s    -1.04 ( 3) E5D4 B7B6 F6E4
  1.       0s    -1.01 ( 3) E5D4 B7B6 H6F8
  1.       0s    -0.99 ( 3) E5D4 B7B6 H6F4
  1.       0s    -0.97 ( 3) E5D4 B7B6 D4E5
  1.       0s     0.03 ( 4) E5D4 B7B6 D4E5 G6G5
  1.       0s    -0.95 ( 4) E5D4 B7B6 D4E5 B5A6
  1.       0s    -1.03 ( 4) E5D4 B7B6 D4E5 B5C6
  1.       0s    -1.01 ( 4) E5D4 B7B6 H6F4 B5C6
  1.       0s    -1.05 ( 4) E5D4 B5A6 H6F4 B7B5
  1.       0s    -1.15 ( 4) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5
  1.       0s    -4.19 ( 5) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 F6E8
  1.       0s    -1.20 ( 5) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 F6G4
  1.       0s    -1.15 ( 5) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 H6F8
  1.       0s    -1.13 ( 5) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 H6F4
  1.       4s     0.01 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 H6F4 B5B4
  1.       4s    -0.15 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 H6F4 G6G5
  1.       4s    -1.13 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 H6F4 C6B7
  1.       4s    -1.18 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 B7B5 H6F4 C6D5
  1.       4s    -1.20 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 D4C3 E6E5 F6G4 E5E4
  1.       5s    -1.17 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 H6F8 B7B6 D4C3 G6G5
  1.       5s    -1.16 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 H6G5 B7B6 G5F4 B6B5
  1.       6s    -1.14 ( 6) E5D4 B5C6 H6F4 H8G7 F6E4 F7F5
  1.      30s    -1.22 ( 7) E5D4 B5C6 H6F4 H8G7 F6E4 F7F5 E4D6
  1.      30s    -1.19 ( 7) E5D4 B5C6 H6F4 H8G7 F6E4 F7F5 E4G5
  1.      30s    -1.16 ( 7) E5D4 B5C6 H6F4 H8G7 F6E4 F7F5 F4E5
  1.      30s    -1.13 ( 7) E5D4 B5C6 H6F4 H8G7 F4E5 B7B5 F6D5
  1.     250s   190.00 ( 7) E5D6 D4D3 D6E7 D3D2 E7F8 D2D1 H6G7

  1. E5D6

Now for my dedicated chess computers...

* My Scisys 1850 (1986) worked it out in 3 minutes using the mate solving level.

* My Scisys Chess Champion 2150L (1988) finds the solution in 35 seconds using
the problem solving level.

Cheers,
Tom.







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