Author: Uri Blass
Date: 02:34:21 06/02/03
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On June 02, 2003 at 05:15:06, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On June 02, 2003 at 04:55:15, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>On June 02, 2003 at 04:21:27, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On June 02, 2003 at 02:34:30, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>I made prediction last september, when Ruffian come out. My prediction: it takes >>>>more than one year before it's beaten by amateur! Soon 9 months is >>>>gone and my prediction still keeps. Of course List, SOS and Aristarch are >>>>getting much better, but still they are not quite at Ruffian level. Of course >>>>differences are minor and surprises are possible... >>>> >>>>Jouni >>> >>>Which engines do you think should be tested to determine the strongest freely >>>available amateur? Maybe I will run a tournament. How about... >>> >>>Amy >>>Aristarch >>>Comet >>>Crafty >>>LambChop >>>List >>>Pepito >>>Ruffian >>>SOS >>>Yace >>> >>>Any suggestions (either engines to add or remove)? >> >>Remove: >>List, newer versions are not compatible to UCI / WB or not available (I don't >>know). >> >>You forgot the complete newer generation of engines: >> >>- TheBaron >>- SmarThink >>- Knight Dreamer >>- Delfi >>- Ktulu >>- Green Light Chess >>- King of Kings >> >>I don't know how strong are Dorky or Betsy! >> >>Knight Dreamer and Delfi are very strong, not sure but maybe on Crafty level or >>better. >> >>>Also, what time control, hash size, and other settings? The fewer number of >>>engines, the longer the time control can be. >> >>I used 40/40 and 40/10! >> >>And don't forget ... newer versions of Ruffian are very very strong. After my >>opinion is Ruffian at the moment the number 3 (maybe Fritz and Shredder are a >>little bit stronger). > > Hi Frank > Ruffian 1.0.1 is very strong but unable to obtain an overall score > of more than 35 % against the professionl engines. No newer versions > of Ruffian have been released. Why can you state that Ruffian is at > the moment the number 3. > Kurt I am interested to know if you run Ruffian under winboard in your test. I found for versions of movei that they can show a different behaviour under winboard and under Fritz so I suspect that it is possible that other programs can also show different behaviour under different interfaces. Ruffian most impressive results were under winboard in Leo's tournament I do not know if winboard programs can play under winboard against chessbase engines if you do not play games manually. Uri
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