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Subject: Re: How about a tournament?

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 03:00:48 06/02/03

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On June 02, 2003 at 05:15:06, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On June 02, 2003 at 04:55:15, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On June 02, 2003 at 04:21:27, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>On June 02, 2003 at 02:34:30, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>I made prediction last september, when Ruffian come out. My prediction: it takes
>>>>more than one year before it's beaten by amateur! Soon 9 months is
>>>>gone and my prediction still keeps. Of course List, SOS and Aristarch are
>>>>getting much better, but still they are not quite at Ruffian level. Of course
>>>>differences are minor and surprises are possible...
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>Which engines do you think should be tested to determine the strongest freely
>>>available amateur? Maybe I will run a tournament. How about...
>>>
>>>Amy
>>>Aristarch
>>>Comet
>>>Crafty
>>>LambChop
>>>List
>>>Pepito
>>>Ruffian
>>>SOS
>>>Yace
>>>
>>>Any suggestions (either engines to add or remove)?
>>
>>Remove:
>>List, newer versions are not compatible to UCI / WB or not available (I don't
>>know).
>>
>>You forgot the complete newer generation of engines:
>>
>>- TheBaron
>>- SmarThink
>>- Knight Dreamer
>>- Delfi
>>- Ktulu
>>- Green Light Chess
>>- King of Kings
>>
>>I don't know how strong are Dorky or Betsy!
>>
>>Knight Dreamer and Delfi are very strong, not sure but maybe on Crafty level or
>>better.
>>
>>>Also, what time control, hash size, and other settings? The fewer number of
>>>engines, the longer the time control can be.
>>
>>I used 40/40 and 40/10!
>>
>>And don't forget ... newer versions of Ruffian are very very strong. After my
>>opinion is Ruffian at the moment the number 3 (maybe Fritz and Shredder are a
>>little bit stronger).
>
>    Hi Frank
>    Ruffian 1.0.1 is very strong but unable to obtain an overall score
>    of more than 35 % against the professionl engines. No newer versions
>    of Ruffian have been released. Why can you state that Ruffian is at
>    the moment the number 3.
>    Kurt
>>
>>Best
>>Frank

Hi Kurt,

I have a newer version!
But since years I public no results (I think I make here in the past enough, 18
months running CCE tourney with daily updates´for an example).

Older Ruffian versions are also strong but little time managment problems (in my
opinion not the WB Ruffian engine). If users make now a test against commercial
engines Ruffian performance is a litte bit slower.

Tiger, Hiarcs, King, Junior maybe Rebel are playing in the same group as Ruffian
but I believe Ruffian is a tick stronger.

Best
Frank



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