Author: Aaron Gordon
Date: 06:47:43 06/02/03
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On June 02, 2003 at 00:06:43, margolies,marc wrote: >thank you for your offer and info. the amd 1700 is a good cheap chip that I use >now. >I don't know if chess engines should be overclocked-- I am still thinking about >this particularly after some of Doc Hyatt's postings regarding the matter. >of course that still does not settle my mobo issue. >-marc Hyatt is rather inexperienced at overclocking. I'm sure he knows about the registers, ASM programming & whatnot but as far as his hands on overclocking experience, thats next to nil. I however have been doing it most of my life. I test the chips thoroughly and provide headroom to further ensure stability. I've sold many pretested overclocked chips, I don't know of a single person that has had a problem with the chip being unstable. That is a fact. Soon I will be pretesting modified Athlon XP to MP chips. All AMD does it produce the fastest cores available (same for Intel). They send the cores to malaysia to and then they're assembled onto the OPGA packaging. These are all the same, and are uncut. They then use a laser to cut the bridges and make the chip whatever they want. The chip right next to a 1700+ could have been a 3200+. It all depends on how the market is going. If 1700+'s are flying off the shelves (and they are), AMD, like they're doing now, will produce more. These happen to have ~2.4GHz cores. >On June 01, 2003 at 20:39:29, Aaron Gordon wrote: > >>On June 01, 2003 at 17:35:51, margolies,marc wrote: >> >>>hi all. >>>as there are so many good deep engines out now... >>>i am serioulsy considering assembling a dual processor setup for chess >>>background analysis (on a home lan) and playing (competitively?) >>> >>>What I need from you guys are mobo recommendations uopn which to build a system. >>>i have heard some of you write about an "iwill" brand board. >>>of course I know the specs of the tyan and aopen boards already. >>>Does someone here know if there are any opteron boards floating in the market >>>place yet? ( or is this maximum overkill?) >>> >>>So, I'd appreciate any knowledge mainboard archeitecture recommendations. >>>thanks- marc >> >>I'm not sure about motherboards now days for Athlon systems.. the iWill MPX2 was >>the best one IMO. Now they don't make it any more, which is a shame because it >>was awesome. About processors... I can take special Athlon XP 1700+ chips >>(latest core) and modify them physically to run 2266MHz (2800+ is 2250MHz) on a >>regular 133fsb motherboard and they'll run in SMP. >> >>There are no catches, you just pop in the processor and the motherboard will >>detect it as an Athlon MP 2800+. You don't have to do anything special. The good >>thing is they're extremely cheap AND faster than a dual Xeon 3.06. An added >>bonus is you can pick up a dual Athlon board and two of these modified 2800+ MP >>chips for less than the price of a single 3.06GHz Xeon. >> >>All chips will be fully tested to be completely stable. It's not really >>necessary on the latst cores because all AMD is doing is dropping ~2.4GHz cores >>onto an OPGA package and changing the 'settings' on the chip, marking it to >>whatever the market demands, and selling it. All I'm doing is setting it back to >>what it really is. :) >> >>Also, if requested, I could provide Athlon MP 3200+ to 3400+ chips (2.4-2.53GHz) >>chips, these would technically be considered 'overclocked' and would run at a >>slightly higher voltage than normal.. thus producing a bit of heat (still less >>than a Xeon 3.06, however). I will still test for complete stability of course.
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