Author: Peter Stayne
Date: 10:37:26 06/02/03
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Speaking of this, have you mastered the mysteries of the thoroughbred/barton codes? I know the guys at Overclockers.com/.co.uk have been working die hard on this for a while now. how do you tell the difference between a tbred A and a Tbred B 1700+? etc... On June 02, 2003 at 09:47:43, Aaron Gordon wrote: >On June 02, 2003 at 00:06:43, margolies,marc wrote: > >>thank you for your offer and info. the amd 1700 is a good cheap chip that I use >>now. >>I don't know if chess engines should be overclocked-- I am still thinking about >>this particularly after some of Doc Hyatt's postings regarding the matter. >>of course that still does not settle my mobo issue. >>-marc > >Hyatt is rather inexperienced at overclocking. I'm sure he knows about the >registers, ASM programming & whatnot but as far as his hands on overclocking >experience, thats next to nil. I however have been doing it most of my life. I >test the chips thoroughly and provide headroom to further ensure stability. I've >sold many pretested overclocked chips, I don't know of a single person that has >had a problem with the chip being unstable. That is a fact. Soon I will be >pretesting modified Athlon XP to MP chips. > >All AMD does it produce the fastest cores available (same for Intel). They send >the cores to malaysia to and then they're assembled onto the OPGA packaging. >These are all the same, and are uncut. They then use a laser to cut the bridges >and make the chip whatever they want. The chip right next to a 1700+ could have >been a 3200+. It all depends on how the market is going. If 1700+'s are flying >off the shelves (and they are), AMD, like they're doing now, will produce more. >These happen to have ~2.4GHz cores. > >>On June 01, 2003 at 20:39:29, Aaron Gordon wrote: >> >>>On June 01, 2003 at 17:35:51, margolies,marc wrote: >>> >>>>hi all. >>>>as there are so many good deep engines out now... >>>>i am serioulsy considering assembling a dual processor setup for chess >>>>background analysis (on a home lan) and playing (competitively?) >>>> >>>>What I need from you guys are mobo recommendations uopn which to build a system. >>>>i have heard some of you write about an "iwill" brand board. >>>>of course I know the specs of the tyan and aopen boards already. >>>>Does someone here know if there are any opteron boards floating in the market >>>>place yet? ( or is this maximum overkill?) >>>> >>>>So, I'd appreciate any knowledge mainboard archeitecture recommendations. >>>>thanks- marc >>> >>>I'm not sure about motherboards now days for Athlon systems.. the iWill MPX2 was >>>the best one IMO. Now they don't make it any more, which is a shame because it >>>was awesome. About processors... I can take special Athlon XP 1700+ chips >>>(latest core) and modify them physically to run 2266MHz (2800+ is 2250MHz) on a >>>regular 133fsb motherboard and they'll run in SMP. >>> >>>There are no catches, you just pop in the processor and the motherboard will >>>detect it as an Athlon MP 2800+. You don't have to do anything special. The good >>>thing is they're extremely cheap AND faster than a dual Xeon 3.06. An added >>>bonus is you can pick up a dual Athlon board and two of these modified 2800+ MP >>>chips for less than the price of a single 3.06GHz Xeon. >>> >>>All chips will be fully tested to be completely stable. It's not really >>>necessary on the latst cores because all AMD is doing is dropping ~2.4GHz cores >>>onto an OPGA package and changing the 'settings' on the chip, marking it to >>>whatever the market demands, and selling it. All I'm doing is setting it back to >>>what it really is. :) >>> >>>Also, if requested, I could provide Athlon MP 3200+ to 3400+ chips (2.4-2.53GHz) >>>chips, these would technically be considered 'overclocked' and would run at a >>>slightly higher voltage than normal.. thus producing a bit of heat (still less >>>than a Xeon 3.06, however). I will still test for complete stability of course.
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