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Subject: Re: Junior 8 bug

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:00:03 06/02/03

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On June 02, 2003 at 13:46:35, Mike Hood wrote:

>On June 02, 2003 at 13:34:53, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>
>>On June 02, 2003 at 13:11:48, Mike Hood wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>[D]KB1r4/P7/2k5/2P5/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Junior 8:
>>>
>>>1. -+ (-#2): 1...Rh8 2.Bc7 Kxc7#
>>>2. -+ (-#2): 1...Rg8 2.Bc7 Kxc7#
>>>3. -+ (-#2): 1...Rf8 2.Bc7 Kxc7#
>>>4. -+ (-#2): 1...Re8 2.Bc7 Kxc7#
>>>5. = (0.00): 1...Rd7
>>>
>>>no comment
>>
>>Main variations often look rather silly. After 1...Rh8 the GUI offers correctly
>>stalemate.
>>
>>Helmut
>
>Are you trying to say that this output by Junior 8 is acceptable? It's true that
>Junior 8 recognizes the stalemate when it is White's move (I'm not sure whether
>it is the GUI or the engine that recognizes the stalemate), but any chess
>program that announces a win for Black in the above position ("Mate in 2") is
>clearly defective.


It is known that old versions of Junior also had different bugs in stalemate
detection but do not evaluate the relevant position as mate.

I wonder if Amir tried to correct the bug in stalemate detection and created a
different bug in stalemate detection.

It may be interesting to get a response from Amir Ban about it.

Uri



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