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Subject: Re: How about a tournament?

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 11:10:44 06/02/03

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On June 02, 2003 at 11:58:46, Helmut Conrady wrote:

>
>>
>>And don't forget ... newer versions of Ruffian are very very strong. After my
>>opinion is Ruffian at the moment the number 3 (maybe Fritz and Shredder are a
>>little bit stronger).
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>When Ruffian should be number 3 according to SSDF results version 1.0.5 has to
>earn 54(!) points more compared to 1.0.1. Do you *really* believe this??
>
>Helmut

Hi Helmut,

the most SSDF results are against a little group of engines or the same engines
in different versions. The list looks like great for professionals programs.

If you add more programs in a list the results are not the same.
It's clear that this is not possible (to add 50 new programs in this list).

I believe that the most professionls make little tunings against other
professionals or strong engines.

Example:
Shredder 6 results against Ruffian (Shredder make on my chess system 42%).
Shredder 7 results against Ruffian (Shredder make over 60%).

Do you believe Shredder 7 is now over 100 ELO stronger compare to Shredder 6?

I don't believe that newer Ruffian versions are 50 ELO stronger. After my
opinion 30 ELO but Per-Ola fixed some bugs (e.g. time managment, endgame). It's
possible that Ruffian is under ChessBase GUIs 50-75 ELO stronger.

I played different test games against Hiarcs and Junior and the results are
clearly better under ChessBase GUIs (Dual Pentium III, 733 MHz). On my other
system I haven't installed Fritz 8 only ChessBase 7.0 and test only under
WinBoard and Arena GUI. I have more interest on WB engines, like Delfi, Knight
Dreamer, The Baron, Smarthink and other amateurs.

Best
Frank



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