Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:22:11 06/02/03
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On June 02, 2003 at 16:43:30, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>On June 02, 2003 at 16:07:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 02, 2003 at 15:08:11, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>On June 02, 2003 at 14:35:48, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 02, 2003 at 04:55:15, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Remove:
>>>>>List, newer versions are not compatible to UCI / WB or not available (I don't
>>>>>know).
>>>>
>>>>I think there is something wrong with List 4.61, or maybe I am doing something
>>>>wrong. When I play it, it only searches to depth 1 or 2, and it plays horrible.
>>>>
>>>>[White "Russell"]
>>>>[Black "List 4.61"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[TimeControl "120+0"]
>>>>
>>>>1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Bg4 3.e3 e6 4.Bd3 Bd6 5.O-O Nc6 6.c3 Nf6 7.Nbd2 a6 8.Re1 b6 9.e4
>>>>O-O 10.e5 Bxf3 11.Qxf3 Bxe5 12.dxe5 Nd7 13.Bxh7+ Kxh7 14.Qh5+ Kg8 15.Nf3 Qe7
>>>>16.Ng5
>>>>Rfe8 17.Qh7+ Kf8 18.Qh8# {Mate} 1-0
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Fritz Reul don't support his own program in different chess fora. I added List
>>>for 2 years (in this time only a textmode program) on my older webpage. Newer
>>>versions of List are very very strong but half commercial (only running under
>>>commercial ChessBase GUIs).
>>>
>>>I don't like the way that chess programmer make his engine uncompatible (not
>>>running under the standards Winboard and UCI protocol).
>>>
>>>In this case a good idea to write a little mail to chessbase support because I
>>>don't know that you find here or in WinBoard Forum an answer from List
>>>programmer Fritz Reul.
>>>
>>>Furthermore, I don't like programs where running in 0/100 in 5 seconds.
>>>For me not to explain that a program in one year is playing on top amateur level
>>>niveau. But his is my private opinion ... maybe Fritz Reul is the most powerfull
>>>young talent. Top programmers, like Frans Morsch (good example) development a
>>>strong engine in 15 years!
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>We do not know the time that he used to develop it.
>>It is possible that he started to develop it 10 years ago but we only heard
>>about it in the last year.
>>
>>I believe that it is also possible that some genius will develop a top program
>>faster than one year so I do not like criticizing a programmer because of the
>>time that it took him to develop his program.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hi Uri,
>
>yes I agreed ...
>The history of a development is not public for every engine.
>
>But I don't agreed that a person can create a' Rally tempo an engine which is
>stronger than Crafty. I am not a programmer but I believe this is not possible.
I do not believe in it.
I believe that a very good programmer with good ideas can do it in few monthes.
I believe that I have good ideas and my problems are:
a)I do not consider myself as a very good programmer.
b)I spend a lot of time not about trying to improving the engine but about
discussions or about analyzing my correspondence games.
Uri
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